Haters or Just Opinion

[ladiesdance]

As an frequent reader and supportive parent of this message board I'm confused as to why everytime someone expresses their opinion the back lash is always countered as Hate. I would assume we are all supportive of our prospective girls but at the same time welcome all competition. It's just my opionion that this word (HATERS) has been used excessively on this board and for the most part without merit. Just some food for thought as we are all ADULTS. At the end of the day its still about the GIRLS. Lets continue to support the MD/DC/VA region.:)

[HighLevel]

AMEN! Defense wins ball games not discussions.

[4street]

Opinion is spending the past 6 months talking about everyone else having illegal players or stealing players from your county. Hating is when that light is shining on you.

[pgcop]

there is a lot of unresolved anger in this region toward individuals and organizations some valid some not. there is history that all don't know about that can be underlying in posts, sometimes its there sometimes its not. if you have been succesful in this area you tend to attract jealousy, envy and what we here have come to call hate. some cases it is good because naturally everyone wants the #1 spot and if you got it they are gunning for you whether player or team, friend or foe, that's the nature of the game it gives them a goal, something to shoot for. now the there are those who have done some shady stuff to gain success and the attacks aren't competitve but done out of anger and meant to be hurtful. of course the one on top, the #1 stunner, the big kahuna believes everyone and every post has hate imbeded in it and everyone who doesn't acknowledge them as thetopdog is a hater. by the way some are for whatever reason. or I could just report team A got beat by 20 now I'm hating on team A. am I hating maybe, maybe not. but because of our history we assume everyone is hating. you see everyone may not be hating but everyone has an angle...everyone. and if you are observant you can see what their angle is. I can pretty much read everyone and there angle after about 6 or so posts sometimes sooner, and I know others can too some are obvious but some have well hidden motives, but not all are haters. how do you tell the difference,Rule#3: let them go on posting, if the message is that sublime most people won't get it anyway don't feed into it by a response let them continue and they will eventually let it out and expose themselves. if you jump in too quickly they will moonwalk on you and say 'what I'm not hating I was just saying....' leaving you out there looking over sensitive to any comment.

[Balling]

This one is done!!

[hoopsfl]

I wondered the same thing before ladiesdance. Far too often, those who disagree with some are labeled as haters. In my view, that's just a lazy way for one to attempt to discredit another and avoid discussion on the merits of an opposing point of view.

[pgcop]

rule #2 if the post starts off saying "I'm not knocking any players but..." or "I'm don't want sound negative but..." one must question whatever follows in the post.

[DALIST]

So...I just continue stating how I feel!..Who cares how others feel about my thoughts!..Too many people on this site want to be liked or praised! Man..say what you feel and Keep it moving!..It's just a web site!..Stop catching feelings!..GET OVER IT!..I don't care what any ones feels about what I say and I am going to keep running my mouth! We are not talking face to face so interpretation is kinda hard to view within the e-world!..so the formula is simple...GET OUT OF YOUR FEELINGS...& JUST KNOW THAT IF YOU GO AGAINST THE OPINION OR THOUGHTS OF ANOTHER...UR GOING TO BE LABLED A HATER!..I could live with it...WORKS FOR ME..You can't be liked by everyone! :D

[hoopsfl]

I don't really care either if some one thinks I'm a hater simple for having a different opinion. I think it's unfortunate though that using that label retards honest debate.

[teammom4]

Great thread ladiesdance! I agree with some of what all of you have posted, especially LD,HFL & Dalist! My motto is to Keep It Real, in life, on this board, period! With that said, it really doesn't matter to me either what someone thinks!
I believe haters hate & accuse everyone else of doing it. No different than what people do with most flaws!

[rodder07]

Pgcop makes a really good statement and so does dalist. For me if you have only negative statements to say about a successful situation, person, team or event then I question you motives and in my book that makes you a hater. If you have a different opinion about who can play, which team is better or anything that is subjective then that is just stating your opinion. No problem. “Are the Tenn Lady Vols NCAA champs?”, "Yes, but they ........." That’s what I would consider a haters statement. I think when a statement is filled with negativity nothing good can come from it especially open honest debate.

"Let Losers Worry About Losing!"

[hoopsfl]

For me if you have only negative statements to say about a successful situation, person, team or event then I question you motives and in my book that makes you a hater. If you have a different opinion about who can play, which team is better or anything that is subjective then that is just stating your opinion. No problem. “Are the Tenn Lady Vols NCAA champs?”, "Yes, but they ........." That’s what I would consider a haters statement. I think when a statement is filled with negativity nothing good can come from it especially open honest debate.

That's quite a leap to equate negative with hate. Constant negativity quickly gets old and boring - but that's all it is. It's not hate. If one is contantly negative towards a team, it doesn't mean one hates them. Hate connotes a MUCH stronger emotion and intent than negativity. I think that's painting with far to broad a brush.

[pgcop]

hoopsfl I think you may have hit onto something inadvertantly. I think we may be in the middle of a 'culture gap'. when referring to basketball (and some other things) certain groups use the term 'hate' or 'hater' but it is not in the literal sense of the word but as a slang. As a slang in the hip hop, sports, and teen culture it means to be jealous of one's success, hoping for one to fail, not giving props, making neative remarks about a successful person or group, or NOT SHOWING LOVE. It can be a true statement but the timing can constitute hate it can also be deferring well deserved praise ect. For example you could say wow Tiger just won his 6 title and then I say well Arnold won 6 too. That could be considered hating in some cultures because of the timing of a true statement. That in NO way nessesarily on its own mean that I dislike Tiger, have malice towards him, am upset with him or even hate him. I just hated on him. I hope that made sense. I'm just saying in a nutshell that if you are using the word "hate" in it's literal and not slang text you may be totally confused by the tone and direction of the tread.

[hoopsfl]

pgcop, thanks for the education. I wasn't aware of the use of hate as you describe and what you stated is very helpful. I thought I was up on most of the cultural terms but clearly was behind the curve on this one. If used in the manner you present, I have no problem with it.

[teammom4]

Although a few of HFL's points apply to both contexts of the word, I got the same vibe from last post that HE/SHE may not have been in the same library! You broke it down well...