Another Terp leaves the building

[Bballwatcher]

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/basketball/womens/bal-digest0811,0,169361.story

Maryland women's basketball guard Jackie Nared is leaving the university and will transfer to a program closer to home, an athletic department official confirmed. Nared, the daughter of former Maryland men's basketball player Greg Nared and a Portland, Ore., native, averaged 4.5 points and 3.7 rebounds in 33 games for the Terps last year. Originally a member of the team's 2008 recruiting class, Nared sat out the 2008-09 season after qualifying issues delayed her enrollment until midseason. Nared was expected to compete for the vacant shooting guard position next season with the graduation of Lori Bjork.

[Rebounder]

that is 5 transfers, and 4 coaches leave in the last few years, there are problems in College Park. .

[intelligenthoodlum]

that is 5 transfers, and 4 coaches leave in the last few years, there are problems in College Park. .

Sports fan, do you mean PROBLEMS, or do you mean ADJUSTMENTS...

[girlzhoopguru]

that is 5 transfers, and 4 coaches leave in the last few years, there are problems in College Park. .

Louisville, UNC, Rutgers, Pitt, etc. have had numerous transfers. Obviously the coaches left for bigger jobs. Jeff Walz (head coach at Louisville), Daron Park (associate head coach Louisiana Tech) and Erica Floyd left to follow her fiance to LSU, and Joanna Bernabei left to become a mom. She tried coaching a year at WVU, but it didn't workout so she is back at home.

Maryland has a great staff of hard working coaches. They also have one of the best strength and conditioning coaches in the country that is exclusive to basketball.

Not even the experts on this board counted Tianna Hawkins as a top 100 player. Look at how her game improved since she came to MD.

Jackie Nared left to follow her boyfriend to St. Mary's. He was at SMU last year and is looking to transfer to St. Mary's. Jackie will need shoulder surgery this year.

[Rebounder]

[QUOTE=girlzhoopguru;35611]Louisville, UNC, Rutgers, Pitt, etc. have had numerous transfers. Obviously the coaches left for bigger jobs. Jeff Walz (head coach at Louisville), Daron Park (associate head coach Louisiana Tech) and Erica Floyd left to follow her fiance to LSU, and Joanna Bernabei left to become a mom. She tried coaching a year at WVU, but it didn't workout so she is back at home.


nice try, Park was forced out, La Tech a promotion ? LOL

Bernabei interviewed for a few jobs, when she was rejected she " decided to spend more time with her family " This is what the White House always says when they fire someone.

[Bballwatcher]

Seems like that #2 recruiting class might have put her deep on that bench. Mincy, Cloud and Thomas are all capable of taking the time Nared was going to get this year.

[NC Ballin]

Coach, moms and dads we need to do a better job of putting are young ladies in better positions to enjoy their college experience. I see it over and over kids going to schools that are over their heads. When these kids committed you know if it’s the best fit or not. But I see the Parents walking around sporting there new colors proud as I don't know what. To only watch the kids go through pain and rejection. They always have and excuses for the kids blaming so and so. Parents start doing a better job of putting your kids in better positions to succeed in school and life. I’ll say there are always exceptions to the rule, and over achievers. But a bet there is more under achievers than over achievers, and that’s at all levels DI, DII, DII and NAIA. The best FIT possible for your child. LETS START DOING A BETTER JOB FOR YOUR KIDS……………………………

[lboogie]

Coach, moms and dads we need to do a better job of putting are young ladies in better positions to enjoy their college experience. I see it over and over kids going to schools that are over their heads. When these kids committed you know if it’s the best fit or not. But I see the Parents walking around sporting there new colors proud as I don't know what. To only watch the kids go through pain and rejection. They always have and excuses for the kids blaming so and so. Parents start doing a better job of putting your kids in better positions to succeed in school and life. I’ll say there are always exceptions to the rule, and over achievers. But a bet there is more under achievers than over achievers, and that’s at all levels DI, DII, DII and NAIA. The best FIT possible for your child. LETS START DOING A BETTER JOB FOR YOUR KIDS……………………………
Well said NC!!!!

[TheBigMan]

Coach, moms and dads we need to do a better job of putting are young ladies in better positions to enjoy their college experience. I see it over and over kids going to schools that are over their heads. When these kids committed you know if it’s the best fit or not. But I see the Parents walking around sporting there new colors proud as I don't know what. To only watch the kids go through pain and rejection. They always have and excuses for the kids blaming so and so. Parents start doing a better job of putting your kids in better positions to succeed in school and life. I’ll say there are always exceptions to the rule, and over achievers. But a bet there is more under achievers than over achievers, and that’s at all levels DI, DII, DII and NAIA. The best FIT possible for your child. LETS START DOING A BETTER JOB FOR YOUR KIDS……………………………

Interesting and valid points, NC. I'm curious to hear your view on the ongoing efforts in the basketball community (high school, club and college coaches, pundits, etc.) to marginalize parents as it suits them. You hear and read it all the time, about how "pushy parents" (overprotective moms, and dads trying to live out their unrealized hoop dreams) are doing a disservice to their daughters (and sons). How parents need to "step back and let the people who know what they're doing do their job".

Too many times the old maxim "success has a thousand parents, failure is an orphan" is demonstrated. Successful players get claimed by the high school coach, multiple club coaches and personal trainers (wish I had $$$ for every trainer claiming to have "worked with" Kevin Durant, Mike Beasley, et al), while only fingers are pointed, mostly at the parents, when things don't work out for a player.

I know personally of more than 1 player whose parents strongly counseled her to consider scholly offers from mid-level D1 programs that really wanted her and would have suited her game. These players chose to accept a last-minute, somebody-else-turned-us-down offer from big-time State U, because it was her "dream school", and she was willing to go in and "compete", in the words of the recruiters. If it works out, and I hope is does, great. If it doesn't, who is to blame? The answer, it seems to me, is a lot more complex than "let's start doing a better job for your kids".

Don't get me wrong, I've been in the game for a while, on all sides, and I've seen more than my share of "OC" parents. Much more than my share. But in most cases, the parents want only what they think is best for their child, and its better to draw them into the process with more information that would help everyone in the long run.

Just one man's opinion...

[tinkb]

Interesting and valid points, NC. I'm curious to hear your view on the ongoing efforts in the basketball community (high school, club and college coaches, pundits, etc.) to marginalize parents as it suits them. You hear and read it all the time, about how "pushy parents" (overprotective moms, and dads trying to live out their unrealized hoop dreams) are doing a disservice to their daughters (and sons). How parents need to "step back and let the people who know what they're doing do their job".

Too many times the old maxim "success has a thousand parents, failure is an orphan" is demonstrated. Successful players get claimed by the high school coach, multiple club coaches and personal trainers (wish I had $$$ for every trainer claiming to have "worked with" Kevin Durant, Mike Beasley, et al), while only fingers are pointed, mostly at the parents, when things don't work out for a player.

I know personally of more than 1 player whose parents strongly counseled her to consider scholly offers from mid-level D1 programs that really wanted her and would have suited her game. These players chose to accept a last-minute, somebody-else-turned-us-down offer from big-time State U, because it was her "dream school", and she was willing to go in and "compete", in the words of the recruiters. If it works out, and I hope is does, great. If it doesn't, who is to blame? The answer, it seems to me, is a lot more complex than "let's start doing a better job for your kids".

Don't get me wrong, I've been in the game for a while, on all sides, and I've seen more than my share of "OC" parents. Much more than my share. But in most cases, the parents want only what they think is best for their child, and its better to draw them into the process with more information that would help everyone in the long run.

Just one man's opinion...

I see your point, seems like the people without daughters that played ball are the most qualified to tell you how best to raise a daughter.

[bballmom]

Well said....

Girls need to find the best fit.

That doesn't necessarily mean that a top national player's best fit is Tennessee, UConn, or Stanford. Just because she can play, even excel, at that level, doesn't mean that its a good fit.

These young girls need to look at the bigger picture and stop feeding theirs, or their parents', egos. A player might have the ability to play at, say, Notre Dame. But is it REALLY where the player wants to live for 4-5 years? Has she found a bond with the coaches? Her potential teammates? Is the college too far from home? Too close? Just right? Is it important to me to be able to get home sometimes? Am I really their prize recruit in my year, or am I just the next "best player available" in the line? Do I want to play and have fun, or do I want to pay the hefty price on the rest of my college experience to try to play at the highest level? How important to me is having an active social life in college?

More times than not, the player is picking the big name over the right fit, and that's why we're getting 180 or something transfers.

Its about time some of these girls start picking schools by where they would want to go if they didn't play basketball, then look at the sports programs.

I smile every time I see some hot player pick a mid-low major, or maybe even a D2 school, because I get the sense that they've done right by themselves.

[NC Ballin]

That’s why I said coaches, moms, and dads. I do know this, a big part of parents being uninformed comes from club coaches who agendas are to look good or keep good players year in and year out. (Not all) We do have parents that try and live their dreams through their kid. That’s why parent should assist in the process, but the final decision should be made by the kids. After all they have to go to school and compete for playing time etc…. I always say if we all would let the kids have a say in who they want to play with, and college choices they make. We would all be shocked an amazed at how they know what’s good for them, and are at piece with their decision. Big Man, I bet you also see the parent that trusted and was led in the wrong direction too. As far as a kid going to a dream school??????? Remember the schools they pick are looking for and in most cases, are going to get a number one stunner to sign within the four years they are at that school. So beach time is coming to someone. So Big Man in your opinion she should look at the whole picture and go to a school that’s a better fit for her, than someone should tell her. That’s the problem, we want to have a kid or good talent on our team, but we are afraid to make the hard right decision when it comes to giving good honest advice. I truly believe parents know what talent level their child is, but that old saying live with the JONES…. “My child is going too this school or that school” Try to send your kids to a school that is the best fit for them, after all in the end education is what we are shooting for right?
I keep my eyes open and observe different teams, I don’t know the ends and outs of these programs but I see the good and sometime the bad in them..…. Team Unique year in and year out find talent, they don’t always keep it, but they find it. I’ll bet if those kids stay they would have went to the same level schools anyway. (That’s my opinion) I don’t know the history of the team, I just view this from afar and this is a DMV site. I’m sure most from this area see the same thing I do, and I’m from NC. The one player that I did know played with them for two or three years and she was an all American and played big time college ball. I know there are more (I don’t need the history). The point I’m making and the reseason I say all this is it starts and end with the Parent choices. Weather they are uniformed lied too or just plain gullible it is there’s to make. I just talked with a parent of a team here in NC, and I told him to try to keep his kids team together (a lot harder than we think). They finished 13th at the nationals. I’ll bet money they will not stick, one of the parents will get some balloon line from the next best coach on the summer seen, and they will fall for it. They may have to add a player here and there, but all in all they have size speed, mid range…ETC… “LAST” One big problem, no one wants to admit they was wrong, because if you do you are a marked person. You know what I’m saying “he/she messed over so and so” or “they don’t know what they are talking about” That spreads like wild fire….lol I Like the new rule out, but it’s only going to apply to the little programs. If one of the big programs mess up we will never know about it, but let a small one year wonder team mess up they are done……lol

That’s just another man’s opinion

[lboogie]

Well said....

Girls need to find the best fit.

That doesn't necessarily mean that a top national player's best fit is Tennessee, UConn, or Stanford. Just because she can play, even excel, at that level, doesn't mean that its a good fit.

These young girls need to look at the bigger picture and stop feeding theirs, or their parents', egos. A player might have the ability to play at, say, Notre Dame. But is it REALLY where the player wants to live for 4-5 years? Has she found a bond with the coaches? Her potential teammates? Is the college too far from home? Too close? Just right? Is it important to me to be able to get home sometimes? Am I really their prize recruit in my year, or am I just the next "best player available" in the line? Do I want to play and have fun, or do I want to pay the hefty price on the rest of my college experience to try to play at the highest level? How important to me is having an active social life in college?

More times than not, the player is picking the big name over the right fit, and that's why we're getting 180 or something transfers.

Its about time some of these girls start picking schools by where they would want to go if they didn't play basketball, then look at the sports programs.

I smile every time I see some hot player pick a mid-low major, or maybe even a D2 school, because I get the sense that they've done right by themselves.
Did someone slip something in my green tea because this sounds like something I would say. :p

[intelligenthoodlum]

Maryland ain't the only major-D-1 college program that drafts hard from the DMV; what about the likes of Pittsburgh, West Virginia, Georgetown, Virginia Tech, Virginia, Duke, North Carolina, and Wake Forest.
And now a new entry the IH is hearing wants to make serious waves in the DMV--Villanova!

[atkinje]

Maryland ain't the only major-D-1 college program that drafts hard from the DMV; what about the likes of Pittsburgh, West Virginia, Georgetown, Virginia Tech, Virginia, Duke, North Carolina, and Wake Forest.
And now a new entry the IH is hearing wants to make serious waves in the DMV--Villanova!

What about the Gamecocks and Clemson?

[CoachingBasketball]

Well said....
I smile every time I see some hot player pick a mid-low major, or maybe even a D2 school, because I get the sense that they've done right by themselves.

Hmmm... I suspect that in most situations where a kid picks a low D1 or D2, its probably because the bigger schools didn't offer or pulled their offers.

That said, playing at a low D1 or D2 is nothing to frown at. There isn't NBA $$ waiting for girls, so going to school free, enjoying the college years, and getting a viable job in the profession of your choice after college, is the best any kid can look forward to, regardless of the level they play in college.

Also, check it out, many smaller colleges have kids leaving their programs, just like the big ones. Its the nature of college sports at every level. And any good coach is always looking for better players. Its sad for our kids, but, it happens.

[intelligenthoodlum]

What about the Gamecocks and Clemson?

South Carolina and Clemson haven't made any waves yet in the DMV...

[StreetHoops]

Well said....

Girls need to find the best fit.

That doesn't necessarily mean that a top national player's best fit is Tennessee, UConn, or Stanford. Just because she can play, even excel, at that level, doesn't mean that its a good fit.

These young girls need to look at the bigger picture and stop feeding theirs, or their parents', egos. A player might have the ability to play at, say, Notre Dame. But is it REALLY where the player wants to live for 4-5 years? Has she found a bond with the coaches? Her potential teammates? Is the college too far from home? Too close? Just right? Is it important to me to be able to get home sometimes? Am I really their prize recruit in my year, or am I just the next "best player available" in the line? Do I want to play and have fun, or do I want to pay the hefty price on the rest of my college experience to try to play at the highest level? How important to me is having an active social life in college?

More times than not, the player is picking the big name over the right fit, and that's why we're getting 180 or something transfers.

Its about time some of these girls start picking schools by where they would want to go if they didn't play basketball, then look at the sports programs.

I smile every time I see some hot player pick a mid-low major, or maybe even a D2 school, because I get the sense that they've done right by themselves.

You make some good points. A lot of girls who can play DI are choosing DII for all sorts of reasons. Smaller class size which accounts towards more access to your professors and not just being one of the many nameless faces in the classroom. You all have seen the commercial about those who will graduate and go pro in something other than sports……ie Lawyer, Doctor, Psychiatrist, Robotic Engineer, Architect, Therapist, CEO, etc. And all pays more than the average WNBA salary unless you are a top ten player in the league.

This is why most WNBA players must go over seas and play at seasons end. The majority of the money made is from playing overseas in Turkey, Russia or Greece somewhere. The slogan for DII is…..”I chose”. When a girl leaves a school….I just chalk it up to it not being a good fit. Nothing more, nothing less. It simply did not work out. But, as long as she is getting and will continue to get a quality education for FREE thereby causing her to be able to turn PRO in a PROFESSION other than sports is great and in the long run better financially. Girls more women drive Benz's these days and they don't play in the WNBA......

Message: Education is the Key that will open many doors other than to a gym