Ogwumike Feature

[glenn]

Chris Hansen takes a look at our new 2008 No. 2:

http://hoopgurlz.com/node/1097

[BrooklynSaints]

Sounds like Stanford has a good shot.

How do you feel her game will blend with Jayne & Pederson?

[ifyousayso]

Just think they implied they are a two for one...and in some of the reports I have been getting say that the Chiney(younger sis) is going to be top in her class.

I agree Brooklyn that Stanford sounds like they are deep in the mix as she has gone through the application process. With pre med and pre law on the table and the mention that Duke stays on their list because of academics one would believe Stanford has a very very good shot.

[first2no]

I'm betting that when it's time to start ranking the diaper dandies of 2010, Ms. Chaney will start out at the top of the list. She has powerful drop steps from both sides of the block and she is already a dominate force on the defensive end. What ever school gets Nneka will have struck gold twice. It also sounds like they have another younger sister, I wonder if she plays ball?

[BrooklynSaints]

How does Chiney's game compare to her sister? Chiney was unstoppable when the Saints played CyFair in Houston last year.

I remember telling my players after the game.

"Don't worry about it, If I were playing I couldn't stop that girl".

[scoutnwhoops]

Chiney is very active and has a high motor like Nneka but doesn't quite understand her mismatches as well yet. She fights for rebounds and is very smooth athletically as well. She may be faster in straight line speed and I have a feeling she'll be more of a wing player earlier where Nneka is making the transition from being an effective post player to a post that can face up and play the wing.

The next time I watch Cy-Fair I'm going to focus on the rest of the team as my primary objective at Boo was to really evaluate Nneka against the top competition.

[connboy]

Stanford may have a shot at signing Ogwumike, but I have a gut feeling that she will end up at Texas with Gail. Baylor is also in the running. Who ever lands her is getting a quality player.

[Mulkey Magic]

What makes you think she ends up with Gostenkors and Texas? I'm obviously hoping that she lands with Mulkey and Baylor, but I know that Texas is going to have a natural recruiting bump from the new hire.

Sic em Bears!

[BrooklynSaints]

How close is Texas and Baylor to Houston ?

[BrooklynSaints]

How are both Texas and Baylor ranked academically? Does anyone know the percentage acceptance rate for each school?

[connboy]

Mulkey, Its just my gut feeling that she will end up at Texas, nothing more. I do think that if its not Texas, it will be Baylor. Stanford is probably her third option.

[joemontes]

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How are both Texas and Baylor ranked academically? Does anyone know the percentage acceptance rate for each school?

I know for sure that University of Texas' engineering and physical science departments are among the best in the country.

Based on the article on Nneka (especially the fact that Princeton is also in the running), the high academic profile of a school will be one of the biggest pull for her and her sister, along with the women's basketball tradition of the school. Based on this, I think that Duke and Stanford, and to some extent Texas, should be the frontrunners.

[joemontes]

Sounds like Stanford has a good shot.

How do you feel her game will blend with Jayne & Pederson?

Imagine envisioning a 2008-2009 Cardinal starting frontline made up of:
- 6'4/Jr Jayne APPEL (#1 center from the Class of 2006),
- 6'4/So Kayla PEDERSEN (#2 forward from the Class of 2007),
and
- 6'2/Fr Nneka OGWUMIKE (#1 forward from the Class of 2008).

Sweet!

The only other 2008-2009 potential frontcourt combination that can match up with that would be that of UConn's, but only if they are able to eventually get:
- 6'4/Fr Elena DELLEDONNE (#1 player from the Class of 2008)
to team up with:
- 6'3/Jr Tina CHARLES (#1 forward from the Class of 2006) and
- 6'0/So Maya MOORE (#1 forward from the Class of 2007).

[BrooklynSaints]

Imagine envisioning a 2008-2009 Cardinal starting frontline made up of:
- 6'4/Jr Jayne APPEL (#1 center from the Class of 2006),
- 6'4/So Kayla PEDERSEN (#2 forward from the Class of 2007),
and
- 6'2/Fr Nneka OGWUMIKE (#1 forward from the Class of 2008).

Sweet!

The only other 2008-2009 potential frontcourt combination that can match up with that would be that of UConn's, but only if they are able to eventually get:
- 6'4/Fr Elena DELLEDONNE (#1 player from the Class of 2008)
to team up with:
- 6'3/Jr Tina CHARLES (#1 forward from the Class of 2006) and
- 6'0/So Maya MOORE (#1 forward from the Class of 2007).

I would think that Tenn fans would argue with that statement.

Parker, CAIN, Baugh

I also feel that a team creates its own matchup problems when they play players out of position. Both Pederson & Nneka play the same position. One can move to small forward but once you move a player out of their natural position results are unpredictable.

In the UCONN & Tenn combination all players can play their natural position.

Also Tina Charles is a center. That is the position I see her playing at UCONN. It is the only position she played in high school & AAU.

[txbasketball24]

the O's will go. Baylor !

Mulkey Magic,
You have nothing to worry about!

[SakiBomb25]

Sounds like Stanford has a good shot.

How do you feel her game will blend with Jayne & Pederson?

Stanford has the experience of blending in multiple post players into the rotation. In 1997 and 1998, the Cardinal's frontcourt consisted of Naomi Mulitauaopele, Olympia Scott, Heather Owen, and Kristen Folkl (and to some extent, Vanessa Nygaard, who would float from the perimeter to bang down low). In fact, VanDerveer recruited Mulitauaopele, Scott, Folkl, and Owen all in the same class. So if Buck and Ogwumike were to come to Stanford (big IF), than I have confidence that Stanford would make it work between those two and Appel and Pedersen.

As to your original question, Ogwumike is a power forward who gobbles up rebounds and gets a lot of points from the putbacks or can score from receiving the ball deep in the post. Appel is more of a classic center, who plays well with her back to the basket. Pedersen is more of a finesse player who will play on the wing a lot. Buck, it seems to me, will be more known for her defense than offense. Seems to me like this quartet could definitely make it happen in Palo Alto.

[txbasketball24]

There's not a chance that Stanford is in the running, trust me.

[jonnyss]

[QUOTE=joemontes;196]Quote:
How are both Texas and Baylor ranked academically? Does anyone know the percentage acceptance rate for each school?

i don't have the % acceptance rate, but i have some info, and the answer is a bit different for undergrad and graduate schools.

for undergrad, which is where she would actually be applying, us news and world report (usnews.com) ranks stanford #4 among major universities. since only princeton, harvard and yale are ahead, and none are basketball powers, stanford is the top university that also competes at a top level in women's basketball.

on the usnews list, duke is a close #8, but texas is #47 and baylor #81. you can certainly get a good education at all 4, but getting into a med school with some B's on your transcript will be noticeably (perhaps even dramatically) easier from stanford than from texas or baylor.

for graduate schools (only peripherally relevant) texas ranks better than for undergrad - averaging around top 10 to 15 for many programs. however, i do not believe u t austin actually has a med school: the u t med schools are in dallas and houston, which doesn't much help a pre-med student. baylor does not have a med school either. its affiliated medical center has a excellent reputation, below stanford and duke, but still top 10, but baylor medical center is in houston, not waco, and again therefore not of much practical use to a pre-med student (unless you're pre-med at rice)

[joemontes]

I would think that Tenn fans would argue with that statement.

Parker, CAIN, Baugh

I also feel that a team creates its own matchup problems when they play players out of position. Both Pederson & Nneka play the same position. One can move to small forward but once you move a player out of their natural position results are unpredictable.

In the UCONN & Tenn combination all players can play their natural position.

Also Tina Charles is a center. That is the position I see her playing at UCONN. It is the only position she played in high school & AAU.

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PARKER will probably forego her last year of college eligibility and play in the WNBA by then (i.e., the 2008-2009 season)...

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In the event that Nneka decides to go to Stanford, an APPEL/OGWUMIKE/PEDERSEN combination will allow Kayla to use her inside/outside versatility to play at SF.

On the other hand, since Jillian HARMON would still be a senior during Nneka's freshman season, the initial Cardinal starting frontline for 2008-2009 will most likely be:

CC - Jayne
PF - Kayla
SF - Jillian

with:

CC - a topnotch post recruit from the Class of 2008 (i.e., either Heather BUCK, Sarah BOOTHE, etc)
PF - Nneka
SF - Michelle HARRISON or Ashley CIMINO

coming off the bench.....

Just imagine...if Nneka and Heather decide to go to Stanford, that would be 6 former/current/future McDonald's All-Americans (Jayne and Michelle from 2006, Kayla and Ashley from 2007, and most likely Nneka and Heather from 2008) just from the Cardinal frontline alone, for the 2008-2009 and 2009-2010 seasons. WOW!

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As far as Tina CHARLES is concerned, I know that she is currently playing center for UConn, but I was only going by the position that Hoopgurlz.com designated for her in their National Ranking for the Class of 2006.

[joemontes]

There's not a chance that Stanford is in the running, trust me.

The fact that Nneka is currently pursuing her application process at Stanford means that she is also seriously considering heading further West.

Having said that, I do think that Texas might have the upperhand primarily because of Coach GG, which she has indirectly alluded to as one of her favorite, if not her favorite, college coaches.

[Mulkey Magic]

Hopefully Neka will see that she can come to Baylor and be the next Sophia Young,Bernice Mosby (all-american and first round draft choice). She is exactly the kind of tenacious and athletic young lady that Mulkey builds offenses around.

[chimera]

There's not a chance that Stanford is in the running, trust me.

Empirical studies have demonstrated that you can trust a stranger who says "trust me" 6.9% of the time. On the internet, the percentage drops tenfold to .69%.

[connboy]

I think its a little early to anoint her the next Sophia Young!

[BrooklynSaints]

There's not a chance that Stanford is in the running, trust me.

I can't see any reason why her mother would say Stanford was in the running if they were not. If she fills out the application I would think she is very interested. I can't imagine anyone going through that process if they were not.

[jonnyss]

How close is Texas and Baylor to Houston ?

both austin (u t) and waco (baylor) are about 3.5 hours from houston.

[sim111]

I think its a little early to anoint her the next Sophia Young!


I have made the same comment, she will be as good as Young.

[sim111]

I can't see any reason why her mother would say Stanford was in the running if they were not. If she fills out the application I would think she is very interested. I can't imagine anyone going through that process if they were not.

If anyone knows, he knows!

[sim111]

Empirical studies have demonstrated that you can trust a stranger who says "trust me" 6.9% of the time. On the internet, the percentage drops tenfold to .69%.

If my friend says trust him, then trust him. In case some are lost


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empirical_studies

[connboy]

If she becomes as good as Sophia Young, then some lucky team is getting a great player.

[chimera]

If my friend says trust him, then trust him. In case some are lost


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empirical_studies

You might know him, but I do not. If you tell me who he is and/or he tells us why he made the statement, I might believe it. But just "trust me" and "believe him" don't cut it. We have evidence that she is considering Stanford (the recent story and the word that she received an application and intends to submit it). She may not end up at Stanford, but all indications are that she has at least some interest. If this is wrong or is somehow meaningless such that the apparent interest is an illusion, say why or how can I just "trust".

[YourCrimsonNightmare]

Nneka's list of schools so far has Baylor, Duke, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Stanford and Texas leading Connecticut, Princeton, Tennessee and USC. Ogwumike said she’s really trying to narrow her list.

I don't know why anyone wouldn't think that each of those six schools leads her interest list. It's just too early to speculate on any one team or another being a leader, and I don't think she tried to give any subtle hints one way or another.

[txbasketball24]

I can't wait for all of those "nay sayers" to eat crow and you can trust me on that one! :D

[BrooklynSaints]

I can't wait for all of those "nay sayers" to eat crow and you can trust me on that one! :D

I don't see anyone saying "Nay", She could wind up at any school. Maybe even a school that is not listed.
My guess however is if she does not choose Baylor you will quietly disappear,

[txbasketball24]

you guys came down last year for the Cy-Fair tournament and got smackhandled by a younger Cy-Fair Shock team and it wasn't all because of Chiney. I also see that your team isn't coming down for another spanking this year! :D

You can disappear now!

[BrooklynSaints]

you guys came down last year for the Cy-Fair tournament and got smackhandled by a younger Cy-Fair Shock team and it wasn't all because of Chiney. I also see that your team isn't coming down for another spanking this year! :D

You can disappear now!

Obviously you are not playing with a full deck. Sorry not disappearing, I'll be here win or lose long before you and others are gone.

[txbasketball24]

Telling the facts means "I'm not playing with a full deck", get real or go away.

[BrooklynSaints]

Telling the facts means "I'm not playing with a full deck", get real or go away.

Your view of basketball is winning or else close down the team and disappear. There is more to girl’s basketball than top 100 players in the country. I'm not going anywhere and neither are the Brooklyn Saints.

For the record, I saw the Cy Fair Tournament as a positive experience. It was a good tournament. We got to play against some good teams. We also got lots of exposure. The game against Chiney had about 30 college coaches in attendance. We would have loved to come back. Unfortunately the invitation to return was not received until this week. The Saints had already signed up for the Adidas Showtime that weekend. It will be our lost because I would rather be in Houston.

[txbasketball24]

Wish y'all could come down but I understand that late notices don't constitute a cancellation on a previous commitment. There's a lot of controversy down here because another event was scheduled on the same weekend as the Cy-Fair tournament. Either way the girls will benefit from the exposure. Good luck to your team that weekend.