The Real Basketball Report 2007-2008 All-MD/DC/VA-Region Team [Archive]

intelligenthoodlum

03-27-2008, 02:11 PM

intelligenthoodlum

03-27-2008, 04:58 PM

The Real Basketball Report 2007-2008 All-MD/DC/VA-Region Second Team:

- Ariana Moorer, 5'7", 2008, C.D. Hylton/Woodbridge, Virginia (Virginia signee)
- Raven Harris, 5'7", 2008, Princess Anne/Virginia Beach, Virginia (American signee)
- JoNiquia Guilford, 5'10", 2008, Woodrow Wilson/Portsmouth, Virginia (Old Dominion signee)
- Bonae Holston, 5'11", 2008, Heritage/Newport News, Virginia (North Carolina State signee)
- Josette Campbell, 6'0", 2008, Notre Dame Academy/Middleburg, Virginia (undecided)
- Kandace Green, 6'0", 2008, St. Frances Academy/Baltimore, Maryland (Seton Hall signee)
- Brooke Wilson, 6'1", 2008, Eleanor Roosevelt/Greenbelt, Maryland (George Washington signee)
- Alyssa Bennett, 6'1", 2009, Hampton/Hampton, Virginia
- Laura Broomfield, 6'1", 2008, St. Mary's Ryken/St. Mary's, Maryland (North Carolina signee)
- Kylie Beecher, 6'3", 2008, Hidden Valley/Roanoke, Virginia (Liberty signee)

ALL-ROOKIE TEAM:

- Linda Stepney, 5'6", Lake Taylor/Norfolk, Virginia
- Brene Moseley, 5'7", Paint Branch/Burtonsville, Maryland
- Kalia Johnson, 5'9", Thomas Dale/Chester, Virginia
- Tiffany Minor, 5'11", The Maret School/Washington, D.C.
- Achiri Ade, 5'11", Western/Baltimore, Maryland
- Elizabeth Williams, 6'3", Princess Anne/Virginia Beach, Virginia

ROOKIE OF THE YEAR: Elizabeth Williams, Princess Anne

coachdarkansasraptors

03-27-2008, 05:07 PM

IH I want to comment on how you and the others in the MD/DC/VA area are always on top of your local hoops. I wish we were as organized as you all. Congrats.

intelligenthoodlum

03-27-2008, 06:52 PM

coachdark, all it takes is:
a) a few people on the hustle and the grind, who hopefully know what they're looking at, and will attempt to be fair and even-tempered about it;
b) an infinite number of know-it-alls, who ain't afraid to run their mouths about it;
and c) a whole lot of girls who want to show out, and show off...

intelligenthoodlum

03-27-2008, 07:10 PM

The Real Basketball Report 2007-2008 All-MD/DC/VA-Region Third-Team:

- Abby Oliver, 5'8", 2008, Hidden Valley/Roanoke, Virginia (Richmond signee)
- Akeema Richards, 5'8", 2009, Western/Baltimore, Maryland
- TaShaunda Rodgers, 5'10", 2009, King's Fork/Suffolk, Virginia
- Sonia Johnson, 5'10", 2008, Heritage/Newport News, Virginia (Delaware State signee)
- Kristine Mial, 5'10", 2009, Robert E. Lee/Springfield, Virginia
- Elashier Hall, 5'11", 2009, Eleanor Roosevelt/Greenbelt, Maryland
- Adria Crawford, 5'11", 2008, Thomas Edison/Alexandria, Virginia (Georgetown signee)
- Danielle Parker, 6'2", 2008, Dulaney/Timonium, Maryland (Delaware signee)
- Asya Bussie, 6'3", 2009, Seton Keough/Baltimore, Maryland
- Sydney Wilson, 6'6", 2009, St. John's College/Washington, D.C.

ALL-DEFENSIVE TEAM

- Lynnae Lampkins, 5'6", 2008, Gwynn Park/Brandywine, Maryland (Syracuse signee)
- Akeema Richards, 5'8", 2009, Western/Baltimore, Maryland
- Tierra Ruffin-Pratt, 5'10", 2009, T.C. Williams/Alexandria, Virginia
- Shanel Harrison, 5'11", 2008, Good Counsel/Olney, Maryland (Virginia Tech signee)
- Nyree Williams, 6'1", 2009, Howard/Ellicott City, Maryland (North Carolina commit)
- Azania Stewart, 6'4", 2008, Notre Dame Academy/Middleburg, Virginia (Florida signee)

CO-DEFENSIVE PLAYERS OF THE YEAR: Tierra Ruffin-Pratt, T.C. Williams & Nyree Williams, Howard

NOFEAR5658

03-27-2008, 07:49 PM

Why is the RBR All-DMV team so much different from the Washington Post All-Met? I see that you say that you are looking at the whole year (summer and winter). What part of the year has the most weight? What region had the most looks from your people? Do you look at how they helped their team are personal stats? I like what you do, but I can't understand how you do it. You will never be able to include everyone, but you leave out some good players all the time.

coachdarkansasraptors

03-27-2008, 08:01 PM

Thank for the advice IH. I am seriously going to start to get a group of people to help with this for the girls in our area. I appreciate it greatly.

intelligenthoodlum

03-27-2008, 10:46 PM

"Why is the RBR All-DMV team so much different from the Washington Post All-Met?"

-The Washington Post: a) looks only at its coverage area, the D.C. metropolitan area; b) only covers the high-school season; c) skews its awards towards name teams, name players, and results from the public-school playoffs; and d) depends heavily on the opinions and votes of high school coaches.

"I see that you say that you are looking at the whole year (summer and winter). What part of the year has the most weight?"

- The RBR looks at a player's club season, her fall-league season, and her school season. The weight each season carries varies, for each individual player. A good indicator is always when the player sees the best competition what does she do, how she plays with the best players, is she a key player anytime she's on the court, and does she dominate when appropriate. And of course, there's the obligatory skill, IQ, athleticism, attitude, X-factor.

"What region had the most looks from your people?"

- The regions that had the least coverage were: western Maryland; the Eastern Shore; southwestern Virginia. We had coverage in these areas, but not enough, in the IH's determination.
Curiously, the RBR had major coverage of the club season with the region's girls, on a national level. But then again, the club season is where you find the top competition across the country.

"Do you look at how they helped their team are personal stats?"

- We do look at EVERYTHING. Example A: at first glance, you wouldn't think that Azania Stewart is an elite post player in our region. But we felt that she was the defensive lynchpin of the top team in the region, and a top-five team in the country. And she was the hub of NDA's offense, as well. Of course, she probably improved more than but a handful of seniors in the region over the last three years.
Example B: by all accounts, Chasity Clayton had a less-than-stellar senior school-season, what with inconsistent focus, and less-than-attention-to-detail in skill sets and execution. But when she was focused and played hard, no one in America could stop her--she proved that this past club season. And she has unreal-for-a-girl athleticism and movement, which she barely has tapped.
Example C: Miriam McKenzie played club ball for the somewhat-regular Maryland Magic team, and played school ball for Oakland Mills, which didn't even win the league in notoriously-weak--as far as the wealth of individual talent--Howard County. But if you really paid attention to the Magic, she was the key player on that team, when the money was on the table. And during the school season, she was the dominant player in her league/county and in the Baltimore area, across the stat-line. And won quite a few games.
And so forth, and so on...

"I like what you do, but I can't understand how you do it. You will never be able to include everyone, but you leave out some good players all the time."

- The RBR is, first and foremost, a regional scouting service, subscribed to by college coaches. So, everything we do FOR THE MESSAGE BOARD COMMUNITY is skewed in that direction.
Our high-school team rankings are for entertainment purposes, to be debated back-and-forth by our region's know-it-alls, and to open up the mentals of as many girls basketball fans in our region as possible.
Our player listings and rankings ON THE MESSAGE BOARD are abbreviated versions of what we provide to our clients, the college coaches. We try very hard to expose as many girls in our region as possible--to the message board community, and, of course, to the college coaches.
No one entity sees EVERYONE, in this business. That's the whole point of having scouting services, and the supporting pundits, school/club/college coaches, and expert fans who give the invaluable headz-up on these girls.
The IH doesn't know that we LEAVE OUT good players. We may not have seen some of them; or more likely, we saw most of them, and had a different OPINION of them than others of you all had.
Having said that, the RBR, like any other scouting service, does miss a few ALL OF THE TIME. But as long as the effort is there to get an eyeball on a girl, it's always ALL GOOD...

acusefan4ever

03-28-2008, 08:58 AM

NOFEAR5658

03-29-2008, 07:42 AM

Tarik Hislop
Patrice Johnson
Tianna hawkins
Simone Egwu
Jeniece Johnson

All of these players are dominant players on some of the better teams in the DMV.

Hislop and Johson are both 1ST Team All-Met and Gatorade Player of Year. If you are listing an All-DMV team, they should be on it. Both players showed up every game and displayed their superior abilities(all year around). They don't take nights off like these other players you named.

IH, you put a listing out not to long ago, that included Hislop onyour Washington Post Coverage Area All-Met Team. The players in the surrounding areas are not that much better. Paint Branch and Eroose proved that.

Johnson plays summer elite basketball and high school basketball on the national level. I did not see you much in DC or out of town so I understand why you don't talk about this young lady. All of the other powers that be, felt she deserved some recognition for what she accomplished this year.

Both Hislop and Johnson are players of the year, but they are no where to be found on your All-DMV teams.

Tianna Hawkins, Simone Egu, and Jeniece Johnson are all elite post players in our region. They too, are the lynch pin of their team. These three young ladies are all dominant post players on winning teams in this area. The players that can help their teams win are better players in my opinion, are at least more worthy of recognition at the end of the year.

intelligenthoodlum

03-30-2008, 01:02 PM

The Real Basketball Report 2007-2008 All-MD/DC/VA Fourth-Team:

- Ronika Ransford, 5'8", 2010, H.D. Woodson/Washington, D.C.
- Tiffany Davis, 5'8", 2009, Hampton/Hampton, Virginia
- Miriam McKenzie, 5'9", 2008, Oakland Mills/Columbia, Maryland (Loyola-Md. signee)
- Brittany Crowell, 5'10", 2008, Gwynn Park/Brandywine, Maryland (James Madison signee)
- Devon Brown, 5'10", 2008, Waynesboro/Waynesboro, Virginia (Liberty signee)
- Tyler Hale, 6'0", 2008, Towson Catholic/Towson, Maryland (Drexel signee)
- J'Quita Babineaux, 6'0", 2008, Robert E. Lee/Springfield, Virginia (undecided)
- Keyona Bryant, 6'1", 2008, C.H. Flowers/Springdale, Maryland (undecided)
- Tianna Hawkins, 6'2", 2009, Riverdale Baptist/Upper Marlboro, Maryland
- Sarah Schoof, 6'3", 2008, W.T. Woodson/Fairfax, Virginia

THE SIXTH WOMAN OF THE YEAR: Mia Nickson, Boo Williams Elite (Notre Dame Academy)

Rodder08

03-30-2008, 05:06 PM

I do understand that list and awards are based on opinion but I have a few concerns about your rankings. I will not mention the absence of Olivia Applewhite because that must have been an oversight but Ahja Hall makes no list and Brittany Crowell on the fourth team? :eek: Based on your criteria why are these players not mentioned or mentioned higher? Brittany is the best shooter in the area. Their are only a few others that can be mentioned in the same sentence in the DMV when it comes to shooting and Ahja Hall is the best defender in the area who has checked the best players on every level you mentioned positions 1-5. Come on IH, I know you watch a lot of games, just as I do, are you sure about your rankings? These young ladies have played in every arena from select, fall, summer and winter. They have met with a lot of success on all these levels as well as champions during the winter season. Does winning carry any weight? Where's the love?

Just One Man's Opinion:cool:

DALIST

03-31-2008, 11:47 AM

The Real Basketball Report 2007-2008 All-MD/DC/VA-Region First Team:

- She'la White, 5'3", 2008, Norfolk Collegiate/Norfolk, Virginia (North Carolina signee)
- Lynnae Lampkins, 5'6", 2008, Gwynn Park/Brandywine, Maryland (Syracuse signee)
- Tierra Ruffin-Pratt, 5'10", 2009, T.C. Williams/Alexandria, Virginia
- Shanel Harrison, 5'11", 2008, Good Counsel/Olney, Maryland (Virginia Tech signee)
- Jocelyn Bailey, 6'0", 2008, The Bullis School/Potomac, Maryland (Delaware signee)
- Chasity Clayton, 6'1", 2008, Thomas Edison/Alexandria, Virginia (Florida State signee)
- Nyree Williams, 6'1", 2009, Howard/Ellicott City, Maryland (North Carolina commit)
- Mia Nickson, 6'1", 2008, Notre Dame Academy/Middleburg, Virginia (Boston College signee)
- Lynetta Kizer, 6'3", 2008, Potomac/Woodbridge, Virginia (Maryland signee)
- Chalysa Shegog, 6'4", 2008, Brooke Point/Stafford, Virginia (North Carolina signee)
- Azania Stewart, 6'4", 2008, Notre Dame Academy/Middleburg, Virginia (Florida signee)

PLAYER OF THE YEAR: Azania Stewart, Notre Dame Academy

CO-COACHES OF THE YEAR: Frank Oliver, H.D. Woodson/Washington, D.C. & Cheryl Yarborough, Lessons Learned/Fairfax, Virginia

Players were selected based on their performances over the last year--this past school season, combined with the previous club season; and also on their entire bodies of work over all of their years in high school.

Players were selected by the Real Basketball Report, after consultation with MD/DC/VA pundits, scouts, school and club coaches, and college coaches.

The Real Basketball Report 2nd-Team, 3rd-Team, 4th-Team, and 5th-Team, coming within the next seven days...

You always seem to amaze me with this fake rating system you all over at the RBR have...but I am in search of complete understanding of how you have come to the conclusions on these kids. If it is truly based on both High School and Spring/Summer body of work, then I am lost to how some of your 1st team player were actually selected. I am not trying to offend anyones little darling . I am mearly questioning the likes of the RBR. So please don't take offense.

1.Chastity high school and club seasons were both suspect. IH you chose to term her short comings as lack of focus but I call it TEAM UNIQUE HYPE.The kid can play no doubt, and is very athletic but her POLITICAL PEDIGREE has been bigger than both her high school and club seasons.
2.Nyree high school season was suspect,actually her high school team did not even win 10 games! BODY OF WORK PLEASE..I don't know any other first team member that did not win 10 high school games! Passion alone should wheel in a winning High School season if you are an Elite player. She really did perform well in the AAU elite circut though. She was able to display her athleticism and congrats on UNC but based on your criteria her BODY OF WORK IS TEAM UNIQUE HYPE!
3.Jocelyn high school season was suspect as well. She really did look well during her AAU season. She displayed her ability to handle the ball and secure rebounds yet, based on your criteria her BODY of WORK for the year is suspect.
4.Lynaee's club season was suspect! She played a few elite touneys and did not perform so well. She had a great High School season but that is it!

Based on your criteria 4 kids are suspect on their Elite team placement! How do you negate to place Tariq Hislop ,Patrice Johnson and Elaisher Hall who had stellar high school and club seasons at Elite levels this year off of a 1, 2, and in some case 3 team list? Honestly, Ruffin-Pratt LEGIT..Kizer LEGIT..White LEGIT..Harrison LEGIT..Nickson LEGIT..Stewart 6'5 and dosen't trip over her feet so LEGIT..but other than that I feel as if there is a little bit of home cooking going on here with the RBR! If you continue to be bias you are just as bad as The Washington Post! And Keep in Mind that just because you play for TEAM UNIQUE does not truly mean you are UNIQUE! :cool:

ONCE AGAIN I AM NOT INTENDING TO HURT ANYONE'S FEELINGS!..JUST QUESTIONING THE RBR AND ITS RANKING SYSTEM!

acusefan4ever

03-31-2008, 12:44 PM

Its just a list and EVERY list is biased no matter what anyone says. Show me a list that isn't biased in some way.

DALIST

03-31-2008, 01:00 PM

Its just a list and EVERY list is biased no matter what anyone says. Show me a list that isn't biased in some way.

Debates often acusefan..pretty much every spring/summer period..but it not just a list..it is a paid scouting service. So this list is in fact utilized by many scouts and pundits across the country. So this in fact does not make the RBR list..JUST A LIST!

NOFEAR5658

03-31-2008, 01:09 PM

I agree with you Dalist. It is a RBR opinion poll, but because the RBR is a scouting service representing the DMV it should not be bais for one team or player. Because I don't agree with everything that they do are say does not mean they are not doing a GOOD JOB.

Rodder08

03-31-2008, 01:26 PM

RPH Sports
Top High School Performers of 2007-2008.
No, Excuses, No Hype Just Results.

The RPH Sports list is bias but based on players in the DMV (50 mile radius of Washington D.C.) that have demonstrated the ability to lead their team to victory, outstanding skill set which will enable them to play at the next level, a massed outstanding stats for the 2007-2008 winter season or a combination of all of these things during the high school, spring, summer and fall leagues seasons.

Justifications
1.Results- The player has won a championship(s) or tournaments
2.Skill Set- The player has demonstrated the ability to play at the next level and compete competitively
3.Stat Line- 2007-2008 Stats from the High School Season

FIRST TEAM SELECTION
No particular order

Mia Nickson -Notre Dame Academy, Middleburg, VA (1,2,3)
Brooke Wilson -Eleanor Roosevelt, Greenbelt, MD (1,2,3)
Shannell Harrison -Good Counsel, Olney, MD. (2,3)
Tierra Ruffin-Pratt -T.C. Williams, Alexandria, VA (2,3)
Azania Stewart -Notre Dame Academy, Middleburg, VA (1,2,3)
Elashier Hall -Eleanor Roosevelt, Greenbelt, MD (1,2,3)
Ronika Ransford -H.D. Woodson, Washington, D.C (1,2,3)
Tarik Hislop -Paint Branch, Silver Spring, MD.(1,2,3)
Tiana Myers -McNamara, Forestville, MD (1,2,3)
Lynetta Kizer -Potomac, Woodbridge, VA. (2,3)
Kandice Green -St. Frances Academy, Baltimore, MD (1,2,3)
Ataira Franklin -Riverdale Baptist, Upper Marlboro, MD (1,2,3)

SECOND TEAM SELECTION
No particular order

Akeema Richards - Western, Baltimore, MD (2,3)
Brittany Crowell -Gwynn Park, Brandywine, MD.(2,3)
Olivia Applewhite -Eleanor Roosevelt, Greenbelt, MD(1,2,3)
Josette Campbell -Notre Dame Academy, Middleburg, VA (1,2,3)
Simone Egwu -Arundel, Gambrills, MD.(1,2,3)
Asya Bussie -Seton Keough, Baltimore, MD.(1,2,3)
Khalilah Quigley -Paint Branch, Silver Spring, MD(1,2,3)
Ashley Davis -Arundel, Gambrills, MD(1,2,3)
Danielle Jackson - Forest Park, Woodbridge, VA(1,2,3)
Tianna Hawkins -Riverdale Baptist, Upper Marlboro MD (1,2,3)
Shontice Simmons -Holly Cross, Rockville, MD.(1,2,3)
Patrice Johnson -H.D. Woodson, Washington, D.C.(1,2,3)

THIRD TEAM SELECTION
No particular order

Adria Crawford -Thomas Edison Alexandria, Virginia (2,3)
Princess Tate-Dublin -Potomac (MD), Potomac, MD (2,3)
Nyree Williams -Howard, Ellicott City, MD (2,3)
Ahja Hall -Eleanor Roosevelt, Greenbelt, MD (1,2,3)
Jeniece Johnson -H.D. Woodson, Washington, D.C. (1,2,3)
Shevonne Vails -Arundel, Gambrills, MD (2,3)
Alexis Cannady -McNamara, Forestville, MD (1,2,3)
India Bradford -Carroll, NW, Washington D.C (2,3)
Chasity Clayton -Thomas Edison Alexandria, Virginia (2,3)
Katie Sheahin -Good Counsel, Olney, MD. (1,2,3)
Chalysa Shegog -Brooke Point, Stafford, VA. (2,3)
Tiara Butler -North Point, Waldorf, Maryland (2,3)

Honorable Mention Nominations
Defensive Team
M.V.P.
*Please give reasons why players should make the list.

lboogie

03-31-2008, 02:05 PM

Rodder thank for being the first to back your opinion with some real substance and a list of your own. Whether I agree or disagree you at least went out a did your thing. Respect!

lboogie

03-31-2008, 02:15 PM

You always seem to amaze me with this fake rating system you all over at the RBR have...but I am in search of complete understanding of how you have come to the conclusions on these kids. If it is truly based on both High School and Spring/Summer body of work, then I am lost to how some of your 1st team player were actually selected. I am not trying to offend anyones little darling . I am mearly questioning the likes of the RBR. So please don't take offense.

1.Chastity high school and club seasons were both suspect. IH you chose to term her short comings as lack of focus but I call it TEAM UNIQUE HYPE.The kid can play no doubt, and is very athletic but her POLITICAL PEDIGREE has been bigger than both her high school and club seasons.
2.Nyree high school season was suspect,actually her high school team did not even win 10 games! BODY OF WORK PLEASE..I don't know any other first team member that did not win 10 high school games! Passion alone should wheel in a winning High School season if you are an Elite player. She really did perform well in the AAU elite circut though. She was able to display her athleticism and congrats on UNC but based on your criteria her BODY OF WORK IS TEAM UNIQUE HYPE!
3.Jocelyn high school season was suspect as well. She really did look well during her AAU season. She displayed her ability to handle the ball and secure rebounds yet, based on your criteria her BODY of WORK for the year is suspect.
4.Lynaee's club season was suspect! She played a few elite touneys and did not perform so well. She had a great High School season but that is it!

Based on your criteria 4 kids are suspect on their Elite team placement! How do you negate to place Tariq Hislop ,Patrice Johnson and Elaisher Hall who had stellar high school and club seasons at Elite levels this year off of a 1, 2, and in some case 3 team list? Honestly, Ruffin-Pratt LEGIT..Kizer LEGIT..White LEGIT..Harrison LEGIT..Nickson LEGIT..Stewart 6'5 and dosen't trip over her feet so LEGIT..but other than that I feel as if there is a little bit of home cooking going on here with the RBR! If you continue to be bias you are just as bad as The Washington Post! And Keep in Mind that just because you play for TEAM UNIQUE does not truly mean you are UNIQUE! :cool:

ONCE AGAIN I AM NOT INTENDING TO HURT ANYONE'S FEELINGS!..JUST QUESTIONING THE RBR AND ITS RANKING SYSTEM!

DL...item #2 :all the hype in the world isn't going to make Sylvia Hatchell offer you a scholarship right after her team won the ACC championship.

intelligenthoodlum

03-31-2008, 02:43 PM

The Real Basketball Report 2007-2008 All-MD/DC/VA-Region Fifth-Team:

- Danielle Jackson, 5'4", 2009, Forest Park/Woodbridge, Virginia
- Tarik Hislop, 5'7", 2009, Paint Branch/Burtonsville, Maryland
- Patrice Johnson, 5'7", 2008, H.D. Woodson/Washington, D.C. (undecided)
- Carleeda Green, 5'7", 2009, H.D. Woodson/Washington, D.C.
- Kristin Coles, 5'8", 2008, Notre Dame Academy/Middleburg, Virginia (American signee)
- Morgan Wrightson, 5'8", 2008, Notre Dame Academy/Middleburg, Virginia (Bucknell signee)
- Grace Mashore, 5'9", 2008, National Cathedral School/Washington, D.C. (Stanford signee)
- Tiana Myers, 5'9", 2008, Bishop McNamara/Forestville, Maryland (George Washington commit)
- Tyaunna Marshall, 5'9", 2010, Elizabeth Seton/Bladensburg, Maryland
- Tiara Butler, 5'10", 2010, North Point/Waldorf, Maryland (Syracuse commit)
- Ataira Franklin, 5'11", 2010, Riverdale Baptist/Upper Marlboro, Maryland
- Joya Tharrington, 5'11", 2008, Brookville/Lynchburg, Virginia (Richmond signee)
- Olivia Applewhite, 6'0", 2009, Eleanor Roosevelt/Greenbelt, Maryland
- Nikki Newman, 6'0", 2009, Turner-Ashby/Bridgewater, Virginia
- Erica McKeithen, 6'1", 2008, Heritage/Newport News, Virginia
- Simone Egwu, 6'2", 2009, Arundel/Gambrills, Maryland
- Kelly Korkowski, 6'3", 2008, Walsingham/Williamsburg, Virginia
- Sheronne Vails, 6'3", 2010, Arundel/Gambrills, Maryland
- Elizabeth Williams, 6'3", 2011, Princess Anne/Virginia Beach, Virginia
- Jeniece Johnson, 6'5", 2009, H.D. Woodson/Washington, D.C. (North Carolina State commit)

THE STUDENT-ATHLETE OF THE YEAR: Grace Mashore, National Cathedral School

acusefan4ever

03-31-2008, 03:19 PM

I am still waiting for you to come up with a completely non-bias recruiting services. There are issues with every single one.

Hoopgurlz is a great example. Two years ago they didn't see a 10th the kids they'll see this summer/spring so some of the ratings were off just based on that fact. One could say they were "bias" towards certain kids(state of washington kids i believe was the complaint) but the fact was they didn't see every kid so any rating was "flawed" but it doesn't mean glen and company were intentionally being bias..

The all-met teams are "opinion" based just like the ratings at Bluestar/ASG/hoopgurlz/rbr etc......complaining that the list you agree with are the "truth" and that any list you don't agree with is wrong is silly.

pgcop

03-31-2008, 04:31 PM

lb its seems as though what dl is saying is that:

Joslyn Bailey (Delaware)
Chasity Clayton (Florida State)
Nyree Williams (North Carolina commit)
Lanae Lampkins (Syracuse)

are not on the same level as:

Tariq Hislop (undecided)
Patrice Johnson (undecided)
Elaisher Hall (undecided)

based on their affiliations with team unique. in fact dl's history shows that no TU player should be high on an rbr list and are there only because of hype. this can be interpreted to say TU doesn't and for the past 2 years hasn't had any player of quality that are on or above the level of the pg county school non-TU kids.
the convo is getting old and predictable.
based on local popularity I like most of rodder08's list however, I have always been one to say what are you doing on a national scale against the national top 100 and concensus top 20 reguardless of class weighs more. I have never felt that age group aau and 16 non elite was a true marker even though there is talent in pockets. the rbr list is different from the list I would make simply because half of the kids I have never seen play so I would obviously move a kid from the 3rd team to the 1st by default.
so if you didn't make the list don't get mad get better. :)

but really I think the dl just likes messing with mr. ih

lboogie

03-31-2008, 08:12 PM

Honestly, our opinions are just that our opinions..the bottom line is that all of these kids are going to get a free education somewhere and get chance to play the game that they love.

The only opinions that matter are that of the player and the school that is paying her to play for them.

coachdarkansasraptors

03-31-2008, 08:49 PM

IBoogie, there is probably not a truer statement in this whole discussion than the one you just made. List are made to be discussed and torn apart by those observing the list or rankings. That is part of the fun of discussing these rankings is each other's opinions and concerns about what the rankings say. But we need to remember that they are only opinions and not the final word. That final word is up to a bunch of college coaches.

da silent 1

04-01-2008, 05:15 AM

a list is a list, this is never truer than info that appears on a chat room. but facts speak for themselves.
trb is a regional scouting service sold to college coaches
trb is the only service that shares any typed of infor and allows debate and info for their region to opine about.
trb host events through out the year that never has under 40 to 60 d1 coaches in attendancce
trb has been cited by usa today as one of the top regional services
trb obviously is highly thought off by the client base
trb is eight years old
trb would be remiss in its business if it shared the exact data and info on a chat line as it sold and proferred to it's client base. ( that makes good business sense as they could not buy the service and visit hoopgurlz for free )
trb and its rankings and ratings are a point that elicits discussion throughout the region and somewhat nationally that is good for our region and all of the girls. names are mentioned and critiqued as a matter of opinion.
trb as with in ranking/rating service has a bias good or bad and the report is judge accordingly by those who pay for the service.
trb tries to offer to the region the opportunity to see and hear about players spanning a three state region, with the core being the metropolitan area ( dc, mont, fairfax, arling, balt, arund, pg, lound, alex, etc) a geographical area that contains more hs than nyc.
some of the facts and not all the facts. good bad or indifferent do continue to debate and opine about subjects and data shared as no other service in america does. and as often times mentioned i am sure trb welcomes other's opinion via their list and their criteria and their bias.

NOFEAR5658

04-01-2008, 05:27 AM

DALIST

04-01-2008, 06:26 AM

I'll take this unit over all of the other teams. This unit is more talented(my opinion) than the 2,3, and 4th team combined.

no fear! And its so amazing that the kids i mentioned finally made a list! Don't call this the fifth team call it the "boy i wish i had a political pedigree" list! ;)

DALIST

04-01-2008, 06:42 AM

DL...item #2 :all the hype in the world isn't going to make Sylvia Hatchell offer you a scholarship right after her team won the ACC championship.

But lets also keep in mind that coaches recruit for different reasons. A coach would take you at times because you LOOK like a basketball player. They would take you beacuse you display the character of a their program. Or because you are a great student athlete. Now I am not here to say the Hatchell staff is doing a horrible job, their history speaks for itself, but I also don't want anyone to forget how important it is to have someone supporting you and being a political MOUTHPIECE. Often times the political mouthpiece could get you in school WITHOUT THE TALENT. It's a fact that the IH is doing his job and making sure that Nyree is getting the proper political mouthpiece that it takes to get to UNC. Ms. Williams can definately play, yet I am not going to say that it is only her talent and that got her to UNC. Also, lets keep in mind that a player that has NEVER made any IH list until this season received a scholly to Stanford. And she was not mentioned for her basketball talents, she was only reconginzed for her scholastic achievments while being an athelete. So being on an IH list is not the only way to secure your future at a top program. I am merely questioning the ideals and talent that was placed on particular lists the IH has put out! And at the end of the day It really dosent matter all of the kids on the list will get in school for free. So I am not on this site to piss anyone off or cry like a baby, merely to question LOGIC and support it with FACT!

Youngco

04-01-2008, 08:08 AM

NORTEL1

04-01-2008, 08:14 AM

Nofear I couldnt agree with you more,I would take the fifth team anyday ,,not a bunch of flash just substance and a lot of it...

teammom4

04-01-2008, 08:15 AM

had signed an NLI for Coppin State in Nov, but there were some technical issues & the contract was null & void; therefore, her recruitment opened back up shortly after. She should be making her decision very soon!

NOFEAR5658

04-01-2008, 08:17 AM

I thought Patrice from HD was going to Coppin? I could be wrong but thats what I thought.

You are wrong, she almost went there. Patrice from HD is going to have a press conf. this month.

STAY TUNED

Youngco

04-01-2008, 08:22 AM

You are wrong. Patrice from HD is going to have a press conf. this month.

STAY TUNED

Press Conference though? I dont see her signing to 1 of the major schools in the country though Miami was the biggest school on her.

NOFEAR5658

04-01-2008, 08:26 AM

Press Conference though? I dont see her signing to 1 of the major schools in the country though Miami was the biggest school on her.

What does this mean. Why don't you see her signing to 1 of the major schools in the country.

Youngco

04-01-2008, 08:32 AM

What does this mean. Why don't you see her signing to 1 of the major schools in the country.

It means exactly what I said. I dont see a school like any major school offering her a scholly. Schools like MD, UNC, Duke, Uconn, rutgers, Stanford, baylor, west virginia, vandy, norte dame, louisville, virginia, california, etc etc. I just don't see it but thats just my opinion.

teammom4

04-01-2008, 09:28 AM

I was watching some sports talk show, and they were speaking of the need or lack of, for press conferences (on the men's side). They said why have it and all a kid is doing is announcing his/her intent.
All of it is hype & each individual's journey. Idk if Patrice is having a press conference, but If a kid, male or female, wants to make their announcement to the media, let them if the media feels it's news worthy. They are creating their own memories regardless of what school they are choosing.
National recruit Chay is going to UNC, & Netta is going to Md, those are both schools on that list but I don't believe they had a press conferences for them, that was either their decision or the media's decision not to cover it. What differece does it make either way? Keep in mind that with the exception of a good 4 that list changes ever so often.
I just hope she gets the name of her future university correct. The young man that had his press conference said he would be attending The University of Ohio State...uh...I thought it was OSU!

NOFEAR5658

04-01-2008, 01:22 PM

It means exactly what I said. I dont see a school like any major school offering her a scholly. Schools like MD, UNC, Duke, Uconn, rutgers, Stanford, baylor, west virginia, vandy, norte dame, louisville, virginia, california, etc etc. I just don't see it but thats just my opinion.

What, because she didn't go to Carroll she can't go to a major school? What do you really know about what a major school wants are needs? Patrice is a good kid/player. Were ever she goes, I know she will be successful . She works hard, and is focused in the classroom. How many times have you seen her play? Keep that negative talk up Carroll. If she goes to school for free and gets a degree that's major enough for me.

Youngco

04-01-2008, 07:26 PM

What, because she didn't go to Carroll she can't go to a major school? What do you really know about what a major school wants are needs? Patrice is a good kid/player. Were ever she goes, I know she will be successful . She works hard, and is focused in the classroom. How many times have you seen her play? Keep that negative talk up Carroll. If she goes to school for free and gets a degree that's major enough for me.

Lol are you serious??

I never said anything about Carroll. Carroll last major girl was like 3 or 4 yrs ago with Lyndra Littles (uva) and only other 1 to my knowledge was Schruye Larue and she went to uva also. Hd had players go to uconn, maryland, rutgers, etc there girls basketball history has way more presitage than carroll so I really don't know why would you mention carroll in this post. And Carroll in my opinion had 3 mid major girls but not a high major at all. Never doubted Patrice ability to play or character because I don't know the young lady from eve. I seen her play more than 10 times this year and I believe I can evaulate talent because I have seen it from california to texas to nyc to dc I have seen alot of basketball but with schools its all about needs and if they have a need for a player like Patrice then that is great. Education is the #1 thing and to get a free education is a blessing. Never talked about her game in any post just stated my opinion but If u think what I typed in earlier posts is negative talk then I will continue to do it because I don't think it is.

pgcop

04-01-2008, 08:17 PM

thiis thread has taken a weird turn.

coachdarkansasraptors

04-01-2008, 08:30 PM

A turn for the worst.

NOFEAR5658

04-01-2008, 10:59 PM

Lol are you serious??

I never said anything about Carroll. Carroll last major girl was like 3 or 4 yrs ago with Lyndra Littles (uva) and only other 1 to my knowledge was Schruye Larue and she went to uva also. Hd had players go to uconn, maryland, rutgers, etc there girls basketball history has way more presitage than carroll so I really don't know why would you mention carroll in this post. And Carroll in my opinion had 3 mid major girls but not a high major at all. Never doubted Patrice ability to play or character because I don't know the young lady from eve. I seen her play more than 10 times this year and I believe I can evaulate talent because I have seen it from california to texas to nyc to dc I have seen alot of basketball but with schools its all about needs and if they have a need for a player like Patrice then that is great. Education is the #1 thing and to get a free education is a blessing. Never talked about her game in any post just stated my opinion but If u think what I typed in earlier posts is negative talk then I will continue to do it because I don't think it is.

You really like players from Carroll. Is this you evaluating talent.
Which one of your top players do you think a major might need?
It didn't sound like negative talk it sounded like Hating.

Youngco, Do you remember posting something like this:

My Top 7 SENIORS in DC Schools (public/private) (Not in order)

Grace Mashore- National Cathedral
India Bradford- Carroll
Raven Brooks- Roosevelt
Jasmine Mushington- Carroll
Donia Naylor- Anacostia----------Carroll
Tope Obajolu- Carroll
Chantel Christian- Maret

Let's not just criticize IH's RBR teams. What about youngco's list?

Youngco

04-02-2008, 05:57 AM

You really like players from Carroll. Is this you evaluating talent.
Which one of your top players do you think a major might need?
It didn't sound like negative talk it sounded like Hating.

Youngco, Do you remember posting something like this:

My Top 7 SENIORS in DC Schools (public/private) (Not in order)

Grace Mashore- National Cathedral
India Bradford- Carroll
Raven Brooks- Roosevelt
Jasmine Mushington- Carroll
Donia Naylor- Anacostia----------Carroll
Tope Obajolu- Carroll
Chantel Christian- Maret

Let's not just criticize IH's RBR teams. What about youngco's list?

I dont have any top players, what makes you think I do? . And I didn't even know Donia Taylor went to Carroll. And like I said that was my opinion of the top 7 seniors girls in DC schools.

intelligenthoodlum

04-04-2008, 04:57 AM

400 years of madness; 40 years of reflection...

40 years ago today, The Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was assasinated, for speading the message of peace, togetherness, love, and equality.

The IH was blessed to be alive and aware that day, and remembers that day with a certain measure of sadness and joy--sadness, in that Martin is gone; but joy, in the knowledge that the IH was one of millions of people who stood for HUMAN rights, all at the same time.

Martin, despite public ridicule, also openly represented for Malcolm X and Marcus Garvey, whose messages were radically different, but who all wanted the same thing. For black people, and for all people--civil rights, and human rights.

And respect.

And PEACE.

To the Relax Room, FOR REAL, sports fans...

intelligenthoodlum

04-04-2008, 12:37 PM

NOFEAR5658

04-05-2008, 10:29 AM

In the spirit of everything that Brother Martin accomplished in his stay with us, the Real Basketball Report will extend a helping male and female hand to DALIST and NOFEAR5658, as the two of them travel along on their basketball journey, through the MD/DC/VA region.

Obviously, our two fellow brothers/sisters don't get out much, to check out the REAL BASKETBALL being played all throughout our magnificent D-M-V region.

So, the IH has decided that he will invite the two of them to the Spring Showcase, as guest evaluators for the event, with the Real Basketball Report.

If the two of them are up to it...

I see just as much, if not more REAL BASKETBALL than you. The difference in us is, I don't limit myself to the DMV(are in your case the M-V).

If you continue to leave out good athletes and teams, I will continue to call you out about it. It's not personal, so get out your feelings.

I accept your invitation.

DALIST

04-07-2008, 08:58 AM

In the spirit of everything that Brother Martin accomplished in his stay with us, the Real Basketball Report will extend a helping male and female hand to DALIST and NOFEAR5658, as the two of them travel along on their basketball journey, through the MD/DC/VA region.

Obviously, our two fellow brothers/sisters don't get out much, to check out the REAL BASKETBALL being played all throughout our magnificent D-M-V region.

So, the IH has decided that he will invite the two of them to the Spring Showcase, as guest evaluators for the event, with the Real Basketball Report.

If the two of them are up to it...

I sure will take you up on that offer..but the kids that actually will be out i am already familiar with. But its not that I miss the players..I just think you miss the fact that some kids have game! ;) And as Rodder would say..This is just ONE MANS OPINION! Oh and by the way GATORADE felt the same way I did about the kids you missed off of your list! That's why they made Tariq and Patrice GATORADE players of the year in their respective region!..And C. Clayton was named 3rd Team all Virginia..so it's not just that I am missing the talent! Everyone can see it but U man!..But its ok IH just keep doing what you are doing because you are definately working hard for your kids!

intelligenthoodlum

04-07-2008, 10:49 AM

1. There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY that the two of you COMBINED watch more basketball--of ANY type--than the IH does. On tape, live, or in person. In the area, in the region, or around the country.
There's no need to go into the IH's experience as a player, coach, trainer, and evaluator on the boys/men's side; and as a coach, trainer, and evaluator on the girls/women's side.

2. The Real Basketball Report has in its database approximately 400 ranked-and-evaluated 8th-graders through high-school seniors. So a message-board listing of up to 30 in any particular class is not even 10% of what we have. Therefore, just because a girl YOU ALL like or think is all-that isn't listed on a message board, doesn't mean we don't know who she is, or she hasn't been ranked and evaluated.

3. Once again, The Washington Post All-Met teams are limited to the Post's coverage area, and are based on these girls' HIGH-SCHOOL SEASONS. Gatorade, McDonald's, and the WBCA selections are based on these girls' high-school seasons, and are as politically skewed as it gets, in addition.
Once again, the Real Basketball Report ranks and evaluates girls in the MD/DC/VA region based on what they do YEAR-ROUND; not just on what they did during their school seasons.

4. The IH has an opinion; the RBR has an opinion; the two of you have opinions. What's the problem?
NOFEAR5658, you've claimed that the IH doesn't get out enough, because you haven't seen the IH out where YOU were; therefore, the IH hasn't seen the 10-15 players YOU'RE hyping.
DALIST, you've claimed that four Team Unique girls were whack, and that their accolades and college scholarships were nothing more than IH Team Unique hype; while even in the same sentences, talking about some of the positive things that they do.

Yeah, right. There are obviously always jobs available for court jesters.

5. The only thing that REALLY gets in the IH's feelings is when people like you two yap it up about the IH only helping or hyping Team Unique girls. Yes, the IH has helped 95 out of 95 Team Unique girls over the last ten years get college scholarships.
But because you've run off at the mouth without doing your research--it's called IGNORANCE, sports fans--you wouldn't have ANY knowledge of the 200+ girls in our region, who have had absolutely no involvement whatsoever with Team Unique, that the IH and the RBR have helped get college scholarships over the same last ten years.

6. But the IH digresses. A couple of questions.
- Between the two of you, how many times did you all see Jocelyn Bailey and Nyree Williams play for their school teams this past season?
- Do you two think that Tarik and Patrice, because they were Gatorade Players of the Year and The Washington Post First-Team All-Mets, should be recruited by Tennessee, Stanford, Connecticut, and LSU; and that Chasity, because you two think she's whack, and only a product of Team Unique hype--and that Patrice and Tarik are better, anyway--should not have been recruited by each of these Final-Four programs, because she was only a VirginiaPreps.com Third-Team AAA High School All-State player, in the final analysis?

There are always more questions, more concerns, and more issues, sports fans; but the IH doesn't want to put any teenage girls out here on this message board, based on THE FACTS of some of their situations--as opposed to being based on FAN-CLUB OPINIONS...

NOFEAR5658

04-07-2008, 12:37 PM

I am lost. I never mentioned your team in any of my post. I never said anything about a particular player on your list.

Don't put me in the same category of other people on the board. I agree with some things that you say, and some things that others say at times.

My beef was and is, good players are being left out. This board is for discussions about players in the DMV. I only put names out there to hear opinions of others.
I don't have a problem with anyone's opinion. If I disagree that is only my opinion.

Who saw the most basketball is irrelevant. If you don't hype the kids I like than I will. Don't be mad be glad, because it only means more looks for the one's that count the kids.

No hard feelings keep up the good work.

DALIST

04-07-2008, 12:55 PM

So get out of your feelings and understand that because Team Unique is a QUALITY spring/summer ball club its players reap the benifits! That's the bottom line! I am in no way here to Team Unique bash! Oh don't get it twisted you do your job IH and I have always stated that as a fact. But lets also not forget that the RBR HELPS members of Team Unique! Its that simple. The RBR needs to help TALENTED KIDS..aside from what spring/summer program they play for! IF YOU CALL YOURSELF A SCOUTING SERVICE! So stop getting in your feelings when someone questions the OLE GREAT IH, and understand that the kids you are hyping numbers don't reflect YOUR or the RBR'S opinion!..And High School season is "suppose" to be a part of the RBR criteria and unfortunately your kids just didn't cut the mustard! Plain and Simple! Since in fact McDonalds all american and WBCA all americans only reflect a players HS career maybe we should do away with it! Maybe we should start a petition to do away with these esatblished events and allow the OLE GREAT IH and his RBR to have a fun filled event with his GREAT players! NOOOOOOOO! Man you are a dreamer!..so keep DREAMING!..You are right your list are perfect, and you see the most basketball! You are funny! And to enlighted you I did get a chance to see Clayton, WIlliams, and Bailey play on their respective high school teams, and they were not playing any talent but they looked pretty ordinary. But what differnce does that make?because in the end of the day they won't be focus enough or they were hurt or some other excuse you create for your kids! RIGHT?...:cool:

intelligenthoodlum

04-07-2008, 02:12 PM

"Don't put me in the same category of other people on the board."
- You put yourself in the same category, when you complained about other players being left out, or listed but slighted...

"My beef was and is, good players are being left out."
- Left out of what?

"I don't have a problem with anyone's opinion. If I disagree that is only my opinion."
- You did have a problem with the IH's and the RBR's opinion; and you voiced your disagreement...

"Who saw the most basketball is irrelevant."
- Who saw the most basketball is CRITICALLY relevant, all other things being equal...

"If you don't hype the kids I like than I will."
- Isn't that the entire point of having a message board? And ultimately, the entire point of having a REGIONAL scouting service? After all, the RBR was started because the IH and a couple other people felt that Blue Star and ASGR only ranked and evaluated about 10-20 MD/DC/VA-region girls, in each class...

"So get out of your feelings and understand that because Team Unique is a QUALITY spring/summer ball club its players reap the benifits! That's the bottom line!"
- Reap the benefits of what? The same scouting-service push that benefits about 400 other girls in our region? The same phone-call push that benefits 400 other girls in our region? The same DVD push that benefits 500+ girls who have participated in RBR events over the last year?

"I am in no way here to Team Unique bash!"
That's clearly what you did when you said that 4 Team Unique girls were whack, and the reason they have gotten their accolades and college scholarships was primarily because of the IH hyping Team Unique...

"But lets also not forget that the RBR HELPS members of Team Unique! Its that simple. The RBR needs to help TALENTED KIDS..aside from what spring/summer program they play for!"
- So, what you're saying is that the IH was lying when he spoke about the 200+ other girls in our region...

"IF YOU CALL YOURSELF A SCOUTING SERVICE! So stop getting in your feelings when someone questions the OLE GREAT IH, and understand that the kids you are hyping numbers don't reflect YOUR or the RBR'S opinion!"
- So out of about 90 girls listed over all of the All-Region Teams and categories, how many of the 90 were Team Unique girls?

"And High School season is "suppose" to be a part of the RBR criteria and unfortunately your kids just didn't cut the mustard! Plain and Simple! Since in fact McDonalds all american and WBCA all americans only reflect a players HS career maybe we should do away with it!"
- So let's assume that you are absolutely correct when you say these four girls you're harping on were actually whack this past school season. How many of the girls who you're co-signing had "uneventful" club seasons, or were just whack (if the other four were whack during the school season)?

"And to enlighted you I did get a chance to see Clayton, WIlliams, and Bailey play on their respective high school teams, and they were not playing any talent but they looked pretty ordinary."
- So Jocelyn and Nyree were looking ordinary playing all ten positions on the court, filling up stat-lines, with and against no talent; and Chasity was merely being hyped up when she had games of 25-30+ points and full stat-lines? And outside of Notre Dame Academy, who in the region has played 10 games against the level of talent--individually and collectively--that they see in the average elite-team club event?

"But what differnce does that make?because in the end of the day they won't be focus enough or they were hurt or some other excuse you create for your kids! RIGHT?"
- What excuses has the IH made for ANYONE being listed on one of the All-Region teams? You and your mob have made excuses for your favorite ballerz NOT being listed where you think they should, instead of coming up with YOUR OWN list...

"NO EXCUSES, JUST RESULTS"
- And this is YOUR slogan...

DALIST

04-07-2008, 05:27 PM

QUESTION:Reap the benefits of what? The same scouting-service push that benefits about 400 other girls in our region? The same phone-call push that benefits 400 other girls in our region? The same DVD push that benefits 500+ girls who have participated in RBR events over the last year?
ANSWER: The benifits of the RBR..IH I am not going to continue to go back and forth over this man! We go through this same song and dance every spring/summer period. And the facts still remain..Just because kids play on your team that is not a marker of talent! You don't have the best kids in the area allllllllll the time man!..Why is it that the 1st team has 11 players and every other list contains 10 players? Did you really have a hard time battling about who to get rid of..well you could have easily dropped Lampkins, Clayton, Williams, or Bailey..there was plenty of room for one of them on the second third or fourth team, since in fact you push for 500+ girls in our region..RIGHT?

-She'la White, 5'3", 2008, Norfolk Collegiate/Norfolk, Virginia (North Carolina signee)
- Lynnae Lampkins, 5'6", 2008, Gwynn Park/Brandywine, Maryland (Syracuse signee)
- Tierra Ruffin-Pratt, 5'10", 2009, T.C. Williams/Alexandria, Virginia
- Shanel Harrison, 5'11", 2008, Good Counsel/Olney, Maryland (Virginia Tech signee)
- Jocelyn Bailey, 6'0", 2008, The Bullis School/Potomac, Maryland (Delaware signee)
- Chasity Clayton, 6'1", 2008, Thomas Edison/Alexandria, Virginia (Florida State signee)
- Nyree Williams, 6'1", 2009, Howard/Ellicott City, Maryland (North Carolina commit)
- Mia Nickson, 6'1", 2008, Notre Dame Academy/Middleburg, Virginia (Boston College signee)
- Lynetta Kizer, 6'3", 2008, Potomac/Woodbridge, Virginia (Maryland signee)
- Chalysa Shegog, 6'4", 2008, Brooke Point/Stafford, Virginia (North Carolina signee)
- Azania Stewart, 6'4", 2008, Notre Dame Academy/Middleburg, Virginia (Florida signee)

QUESTION: Am I a Team Unique Basher?...That's clearly what you did when you said that 4 Team Unique girls were whack, and the reason they have gotten their accolades and college scholarships was primarily because of the IH hyping Team Unique...
ANSWER:NOOOO..Actually I am merely questioning the scouting practices of the RBR and its continued hyping of Team Unique players..thats all. BASICALLY, THE NAME TEAM UNIQUE IS BIGGER AND BETTER THAN ITS TALENT! BOTTOM LINE..

QUESTION: So, what you're saying is that the IH was lying when he spoke about the 200+ other girls in our region...
ANSWER:NO..BUT WHAT DOES THAT MATTER?..

QUESTION: So out of about 90 girls listed over all of the All-Region Teams and categories, how many of the 90 were Team Unique girls?
ANSWER: 4 WERE ON THE 1st TEAM AND SHOULD HAVE CLEARLY BEEN 3rd or 4th TEAM MEMBERS! That's all that matters. 1st team mean PREMIRE..They were not premier if in fact some had less that stellar hs seasons, as you stated..

QUESTION: So let's assume that you are absolutely correct when you say these four girls you're harping on were actually whack this past school season. How many of the girls who you're co-signing had "uneventful" club seasons, or were just whack (if the other four were whack during the school season)?
ANSWER:None of the THREE kids I HYPED had whack club/school seasons..BOTTOM LINE! THEY ALL PLAYED WELL IN SPRING/ SUMMER AND DURING THEIR SCHOOL SEASONS!
1.Tariq Hislop
2.Patrice Johnson
3.Elasisher Hall

QUESTION:So Jocelyn and Nyree were looking ordinary playing all ten positions on the court, filling up stat-lines, with and against no talent; and Chasity was merely being hyped up when she had games of 25-30+ points and full stat-lines? And outside of Notre Dame Academy, who in the region has played 10 games against the level of talent--individually and collectively--that they see in the average elite-team club event?
ANSWER: Man they were not playing all postions, there you go DREAMING AGAIN!and another team that played tough schedule for high school was HD WOODSON!

- What excuses has the IH made for ANYONE being listed on one of the All-Region teams? You and your mob have made excuses for your favorite ballerz NOT being listed where you think they should, instead of coming up with YOUR OWN list...
The OLE Great IH:"by all accounts, Chasity Clayton had a less-than-stellar senior school-season, what with inconsistent focus, and less-than-attention-to-detail in skill sets and execution. But when she was focused and played hard, no one in America could stop her--she proved that this past club season. And she has unreal-for-a-girl athleticism and movement, which she barely has tapped." THIS IS AN EXCUSE MAN BOTTOM LINE! IF her HS senior year was less than stellar..HOW DID SHE MAKE 1st TEAM? I REST MY CASE..

Man I am done with this issue..I figure we go at it so much during the spring/summer period I want to save a little for you when you come back from the Deep South Classic! Its been fun IH but I am done with this issue..GOOD LUCK and GOD SPEED!

NOFEAR5658

04-07-2008, 06:49 PM

Again, I asked that if you have a problem about something I post address me. Don't make it seem as if I said something that I didn't say, by quoting someone else at the same time you address me. If you are helping someone else's kid get a scholarship to college, I respect what you do. Let's get back to talking about the kids.

teammom4

04-07-2008, 07:16 PM

Fellaz fellaz fellaz(in an asexual type of way):rolleyes:
While we do the annual what girl balls harder than the other girl in the DMV thing, we have a Pennsylvania Ext. fan poppin' in with cute little remarks about how the DMV as a whole & individually ain't getting it done!:eek:
No harm meant to the rep, u have every right to rep (& throw in a lil smack) cuz obviously your folks are getting it done!

To the RELAX ROOM..Quick!!

...Or IH is this one of the Surgeon General's sanctioned events?:cool:

intelligenthoodlum

04-07-2008, 08:05 PM

1. The IH and the Real Basketball Report has ALWAYS talked about the girls. It's YOU people who have always gotten sidetracked.

2. The First Team has eleven players because ONE OF THE ELEVEN IS PLAYER OF THE YEAR. In other words, one POY, and ten OTHER girls, making up the first team.

3. You clearly have a problem with this Team Unique thing. If Team Unique is whack, like you and your co-signers say, then how do you explain:
a) 95 of 95 girls who've gone through the program over a ten-year period going to college for free;
b) 23 of the 95 being selected for a high-school All-American team, and/or for USA Basketball, or for their countries' Junior National teams;
c) 28 of the 95 being selected for an All-Conference team or an All-American team, while playing in college;
d) 7 of the 95 playing overseas professionally, and/or in the WNBA over the past year?
Is this all Team Unique hype, by the IH? Has any other club program in America been a part of anything like this?

It seems to the IH that the players have made Team Unique; not the other way around, as you suggest.

4. IF the IH overly hypes 5-10 Team Unique girls in a senior class every year, why should YOU care, if the IH hypes 20 NON-Team Unique girls every year ALSO, and those 20 get scholarships to college?

5. If you've seen Nyree and Jocelyn play this past school season, and you didn't see each of them playing all ten positions on the court, then you didn't know what you were looking at--which makes you not too bright. The only other alternative to this is that you haven't been telling the truth, and that you HAVEN'T seen either of the two of them play this past school season.
Which, therefore, means that you are either an idiot, or a liar...

6. If Chasity Clayton has been ranked anywhere from #30 to #40 in the national 2008 class by national scouts of many different stripes, while handling the likes of Glory Johnson, Jasmine Dixon, the Gilbreath sisters, and other high-end SG/SF/PF types over the last two club seasons, that means that on any given night--in scouting-service philosophy--she is a TOP-25 PLAYER, but consistency and focus can be missing on any given night, also. Or it could be some skill deficiencies. Or it could be both. Or it could be neither. It depends on the specific scout doing the eyeballing, as to HIS evaluation of Chasity.
Whatever the deal, it seems to the IH that Chasity's club season would carry more weight than her high school season, with the RBR--if that's when she saw superior players and teams, and delivered enough of the time...

7. You need to go to the Relax Room, IMMEDIATELY...

lboogie

04-07-2008, 08:35 PM

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Shots of Afrikoko on the house.. Dalist and IH slam them down 'til y'all both pass out or puke on each others Chuck Taylor's

Gringo

04-08-2008, 12:44 AM

DALIST, NOFEAR,..........really...... both IH and Lboog are so biased, what good does it really do. Only for their own!! They don't like being questioned and then get mighty quiet when someone really challenges their system with legitament questions. All of a sudden the thread makes a off the wall turn.

Gringo

04-08-2008, 12:47 AM

DALIST, NOFEAR,..........really...... both IH and Lboog are so biased, what good does it really do. Only for their own!! They don't like being questioned and then get mighty quiet when someone really challenges their system with legitiment questions. All of a sudden the thread makes a off the wall turn.

Rodder08

04-08-2008, 02:20 AM

DALIST

04-08-2008, 06:23 AM

Are right Rodder, at the end of the day it doesn't matter!..And thanks for the offer Boogs, I will actually throw some back in the relax room! :D

lboogie

04-08-2008, 07:49 AM

Let me say I respect all opinions concerning this matter but DaList, IH who cares......
Who cares how these student-athletes get in school?......Who cares if the RBR is bias?..... Who cares what other scouts or rankings say? You both are right MAKE YOUR OWN LIST! DaList you can't be mad about RBR's list but IH you can't try to discredit the Washington Post or any other list in turn.

The DMV is missing the real deal and none of us are ever going to be real movers and shakers until we learn what really matters. The DMV is just a very small cog in the big wheel of women's basketball universe but the DMV should be a dominating force. We must work together for the good of the DMV and the young ladies who play. It is not just DaList and IH that need more focus but we ALL need more focus. Lets debate philosophies and ideas not players and list. Attending the Final Four and the clinics and work shops this year has once again focused my thoughts and to see this kind of debate is a waste of talent, time and opportunity.

Just one man's opinion:cool:

You sound like Malcolm X when he came back from his pilgrimage to Mecca.
Good insight!

Mr. Gringo you are correct I am only for my own and my own is every young lady that laces up a pair of shoes and steps on a court in the DMV. Maybe you should ask all the parents and players that I have assisted that have never played on any team that I ever coached or was associated with.

BTW: This is your second ID on the board. I am going to do you the courtesy of not exposing your first ID or the high school your daughter attends...but check your batphone(private message)

intelligenthoodlum

04-08-2008, 08:04 AM

Who cares, Rodder08? The IH cares. Because what's lost in this whole "line in the sand" exercise is the acknowledgement and understanding of the Science Of Evaluation.
There are 340-some Division-1 college women's basketball programs. Approximately 250-300 of them will attend any top club event--Boo Williams Invitational, Deep South Classic, etc. We know why they're there, and we think we know what they're looking at and looking for, when they're watching these girls play.
Yes, it is important to know what the colleges are looking for, and why they're looking for it. But it's also equally important to know what the scouts are looking at, and why they're looking at it a certain way.
Mike Flynn/Chris Mennig;
Mike White/Bret McCormick;
Dan Olsen;
Kelvin Powell;
Jerry Radford;
Apache Pascal/John McGraw;
Brandon Clay;
Glenn Nelson/Chris Hansen.
Let's dismiss, or completely ignore, anything that the IH/Real Basketball Report is about, for a moment. If you sports fans don't know who every one of these 12 people are, what they do, how they do it, and why they think the way they do, then you all are completely out of the loop and behind the curve when you're thinking about and talking about your favorite high school girls, and how these girls are going to get their college scholarships through basketball.
These 12 scouts and pundits are TRAINED AND EXPERIENCED EVALUATORS, of girls and women's talent. Between them, they probably talk to coaches at about 700-800 D-1/D-2/D-3/NAIA/juco schools per month, YEAR-ROUND.
So when any MD/DC/VA player is running ball across from these guys' eyeballs at an event, The Washington Post, Gatorade, McDonald's, and the WBCA mean absolutely nothing to them--they're looking at what that player is doing; who she's doing it with; who she's doing it against; how she's doing it; what she's not doing; and the mentals with it all. And these scouts/pundits are going to rank you, rate you, and evaluate you, and then tell the colleges where they think you'll fit with them.
Sometimes the scouts/pundits are right, and sometimes they're wrong; but collectively, they're never too far off, on 4 out of every 5 players (in the IH's opinion).

You're a rising-senior, and you're a 5'3" to 5'9" guard, from Baltimore, or D.C., or Richmond, or Tidewater, or Roanoke. You were out on the circuit last club season, and did a little something. So, you've been getting correspondences from bottom-half Big East/ACC schools, and most of the Atlantic-10/Colonial schools.
You just had a great school season, winning a championship of some kind, and you got All-Met, and All-State, and some type of Gatorade/McDonald's State accolade, and all of the adults in your circle think you're The Next One.
In the meantime, the IH announces that you're on the RBR All-Region Second-, Third-, Fourth-, or Fifth-Team, and the adults in your circle are furious with the IH that you're not on the First-Team. Instead of them asking and understanding WHY the RBR thinks the way it does, they KIRK OUT and blame Team Unique bias.
So the IH is an idiot, the RBR is a scam, and Team Unique girls are whack. And you're at Boo Williams Invitational, or at Deep South Classic--2,000 girls at each event for the weekend, totalling 4,000--AND 3,000 OF THEM ARE JUST LIKE YOU, A DAMN GUARD!
And the IH may be an idiot, a biased scam artist, and a hype-hack; but the IH does know that 300 of those 3,000 are just better than you are, by any measure.
So what are you going to do--in front of 300 college coaches and 6 of these scouts/pundits--in the first quarter of your first game, to distinguish yourself from the 2,700 others, and to get yourself in the mix of the 300?
So your team wins the first game by five because of a TEAM EFFORT, and you make a big play down the stretch, against one of the 300. That one of the 300 is clearly better than you in every phase of the game; but she was screwing around against you and your team, and you got her that one time.
You play your second game, and it's jam-packed with college coaches, scouts, and pundits. And you're playing against 2 of the 300, who are from the woods down South or from the cornfields of the Midwest. And you and your adult circle have never heard of these two; but the college coaches/scouts/pundits have, and are there to watch THEM, more than they're there to watch YOU.
So you play the game, and your team loses by twenty-five, and you get your head cracked wide-open. One of the two guards dropped a 20-and-10 on you; the other one wasn't all-that over you FOR REAL, but you couldn't do anything with her THIS game. You and your adult circle think that you and your teammates just had a bad game.
You have three more games in the event, and you win them, and you do relatively well; but you never get more than 50-75 coaches at your remaining games, and no scouts/pundits.
The relatively-same scenario repeats itself in the month of July. And you end up signing with an A-10/Colonial school, or even a bottom-half Big East/ACC school, in November.
You have a great senior high-school season AGAIN, and get on the RBR All-Region First-Team FINALLY. You go to college, and sit your freshman year.
Meanwhile, another regional girl who your adult circle swears is whack--Team Unique girl, or otherwise--goes wherever she goes, and makes her conference's All-Freshman team. And your adult circle is STILL whining and hating.
But the scouts, pundits, and colleges predicted all of this TWO CLUB SEASONS AGO, when you all were rising-seniors. And they had a 4-in-5 chance of being 100% correct, when they eyeballed you back then.

BUT YOU ARE IN COLLEGE, FOR FREE...

CoachO

04-08-2008, 09:15 AM

I once thought that is what we ALL were working toward. As the years go by, different high school and club seasons go by different crops of girls come and go, but one thing remains the same the selfishness and ego's of all the adults thinking they know what is the best way to get these kids scoli's. The DMV should be one of the best in the nation but RODDER said it best we are still a small cog in the wheel. We will always have too many GM's, Coaches and parents running around seperating all the talent in the DMV because they know whats best and will promise you the world just so you will put on there uniform and repesent there colors. IH has a welth of information and has a proven track record, Rodder 08 is a winner bottom line, DAlist is another individual with a wealth of information. I could go on and on but until we get together somhow and show the true power we could have as the DMV we will always just be a cog...........:cool:

Gringo

04-08-2008, 09:24 AM

I have my opinions just as you have yours.........
My last post to this board........so I will leave you to your world http://forums.hoopgurlz.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
:)

lboogie

04-08-2008, 09:40 AM

Don't come back a third time cause I will blow your cover publicly.

NORTEL1

04-08-2008, 09:42 AM

Im curious to know and this question is in no way meant to disrespect the Coach at HD and what he has accomplished,,,How is Mike Teasley not considered coach of the year,he's undefeated in the Washington area for the past two years,,He has played all the top teams home and away,played well nationally and if Im correct the two games he lost this year were by a totall of 5 points..Do people assume its all about the players he is fortunate enough to have and that the ND ship is always on automatic pilot with no driver, the premier players advantages cant be true because from what I'm reading in the regional player rankings there are a few teams in the area that have the same number of players in the top thirty players as Notre Dame.So if ND has three premier players and so do other schools in the area why isnt the coaching job taken into play,what is seperating them from the rest,, Who has had more success locally in the past three years than Mike. Is Teasleys success expected so his victories arent appreciated ...Please help me understand..Again no knock on Frank,

Rodder08

04-08-2008, 11:47 AM

IH I am a little confused by your post but I do understand that their are movers and shakers in the world of women's basketball and I respect that. All I am saying is instead of having to impress a group of people who are giving there OPINION to college coaches (as much training as they may have at the end of the day it is there opinion) on behalf of our student-athletes we have enough administrative power and athletic talent to be a mover and shaker but what we do is debate with each other over nonsense never coming together and taking our demands to who counts.......the head coach of that university. Instead of allowing others to determine who can play in the DMV why can't all the pundits and guru's of the DMV come together and lobby to have a voice on that movers and shakers list? No one of us could ever be as loud as all of us. I tell my student-athletes that opportunity is precious and do not squinter it because you never know if it will it will ever knock again. The DMV has an opportunity right now but we are not taking advantage of it because we are to worried about list and debating them. Let's stop counting on others to take care of our student-atheletes. That’s all I am saying.

Just one man's opinion:cool:

Eastcoastbball

04-08-2008, 12:00 PM

Who cares, Rodder08? The IH cares. Because what's lost in this whole "line in the sand" exercise is the acknowledgement and understanding of the Science Of Evaluation.
There are 340-some Division-1 college women's basketball programs. Approximately 250-300 of them will attend any top club event--Boo Williams Invitational, Deep South Classic, etc. We know why they're there, and we think we know what they're looking at and looking for, when they're watching these girls play.
Yes, it is important to know what the colleges are looking for, and why they're looking for it. But it's also equally important to know what the scouts are looking at, and why they're looking at it a certain way.
Mike Flynn/Chris Mennig;
Mike White/Bret McCormick;
Dan Olsen;
Kelvin Powell;
Jerry Radford;
Apache Pascal/John McGraw;
Brandon Clay;
Glenn Nelson/Chris Hansen.
Let's dismiss, or completely ignore, anything that the IH/Real Basketball Report is about, for a moment. If you sports fans don't know who every one of these 12 people are, what they do, how they do it, and why they think the way they do, then you all are completely out of the loop and behind the curve when you're thinking about and talking about your favorite high school girls, and how these girls are going to get their college scholarships through basketball.These 12 scouts and pundits are TRAINED AND EXPERIENCED EVALUATORS, of girls and women's talent. Between them, they probably talk to coaches at about 700-800 D-1/D-2/D-3/NAIA/juco schools per month, YEAR-ROUND.
So when any MD/DC/VA player is running ball across from these guys' eyeballs at an event, The Washington Post, Gatorade, McDonald's, and the WBCA mean absolutely nothing to them--they're looking at what that player is doing; who she's doing it with; who she's doing it against; how she's doing it; what she's not doing; and the mentals with it all. And these scouts/pundits are going to rank you, rate you, and evaluate you, and then tell the colleges where they think you'll fit with them.
Sometimes the scouts/pundits are right, and sometimes they're wrong; but collectively, they're never too far off, on 4 out of every 5 players (in the IH's opinion).

You're a rising-senior, and you're a 5'3" to 5'9" guard, from Baltimore, or D.C., or Richmond, or Tidewater, or Roanoke. You were out on the circuit last club season, and did a little something. So, you've been getting correspondences from bottom-half Big East/ACC schools, and most of the Atlantic-10/Colonial schools.
You just had a great school season, winning a championship of some kind, and you got All-Met, and All-State, and some type of Gatorade/McDonald's State accolade, and all of the adults in your circle think you're The Next One.
In the meantime, the IH announces that you're on the RBR All-Region Second-, Third-, Fourth-, or Fifth-Team, and the adults in your circle are furious with the IH that you're not on the First-Team. Instead of them asking and understanding WHY the RBR thinks the way it does, they KIRK OUT and blame Team Unique bias.
So the IH is an idiot, the RBR is a scam, and Team Unique girls are whack. And you're at Boo Williams Invitational, or at Deep South Classic--2,000 girls at each event for the weekend, totalling 4,000--AND 3,000 OF THEM ARE JUST LIKE YOU, A DAMN GUARD!
And the IH may be an idiot, a biased scam artist, and a hype-hack; but the IH does know that 300 of those 3,000 are just better than you are, by any measure.
So what are you going to do--in front of 300 college coaches and 6 of these scouts/pundits--in the first quarter of your first game, to distinguish yourself from the 2,700 others, and to get yourself in the mix of the 300?
So your team wins the first game by five because of a TEAM EFFORT, and you make a big play down the stretch, against one of the 300. That one of the 300 is clearly better than you in every phase of the game; but she was screwing around against you and your team, and you got her that one time.
You play your second game, and it's jam-packed with college coaches, scouts, and pundits. And you're playing against 2 of the 300, who are from the woods down South or from the cornfields of the Midwest. And you and your adult circle have never heard of these two; but the college coaches/scouts/pundits have, and are there to watch THEM, more than they're there to watch YOU.
So you play the game, and your team loses by twenty-five, and you get your head cracked wide-open. One of the two guards dropped a 20-and-10 on you; the other one wasn't all-that over you FOR REAL, but you couldn't do anything with her THIS game. You and your adult circle think that you and your teammates just had a bad game.
You have three more games in the event, and you win them, and you do relatively well; but you never get more than 50-75 coaches at your remaining games, and no scouts/pundits.
The relatively-same scenario repeats itself in the month of July. And you end up signing with an A-10/Colonial school, or even a bottom-half Big East/ACC school, in November.
You have a great senior high-school season AGAIN, and get on the RBR All-Region First-Team FINALLY. You go to college, and sit your freshman year.
Meanwhile, another regional girl who your adult circle swears is whack--Team Unique girl, or otherwise--goes wherever she goes, and makes her conference's All-Freshman team. And your adult circle is STILL whining and hating.
But the scouts, pundits, and colleges predicted all of this TWO CLUB SEASONS AGO, when you all were rising-seniors. And they had a 4-in-5 chance of being 100% correct, when they eyeballed you back then.

BUT YOU ARE IN COLLEGE, FOR FREE...While this is entertaining, bi-informational and absolutely funny to read because you guys truly seem to believe this. However, I don't discredit the personnel mentioned because yes, they do have a trained role to play in the process... Process!!! not the end-all-to-end-all... the person that controls the process the most is the player because that's the person that will eventually have to lace up and show why you invested... and it would be a great benefit for them to have some great support in their corner that understand the BUSINESS.. someone who has been recruited before wud be great... most people can sit at a venue and determine who's a baller, who's got potential, etc... especially with most of today's level of play... if they knew what they were looking for like true basketball skills and not ooh! & awh!.... and we would all come up with similiar lists... cause their isn't that much disparity except for levels.. either you can play or you can't.. either you're coachable or you're not... either there is potential or we just don't see it now.. cud be a late bloomer... bottom line, no scouting report/agency will be final determination on whether you kid play next level or not.. she controls that with skill, determination, work ethic, drive and a little luck.... :)

One day: we all would love to see the 95 for 95 next level list from TU... the number keeps changing, not long ago it was 89 of 89, or something like that.. with two this past season.. shud be 91 of 91 now... with such a great database of future prospects, I'm sure there is a alumni database...

p.s. the DMV needs to hold classes on Effective Marketing 101 - How to market yourself/product?

da silent 1

04-08-2008, 12:18 PM

in questioning the validity of the 95/95 i am sure you are basing this on your knowing the young ladies from the dmv. it is no surprise that you have no knowledge of the young ladies outside the dmv who are members of the tu program. perhaps prior to making a definitive statement, a question might be in order to actually get the data/info you suppose to be incorrect, prior to recommending a marketing class. knowledge is powerful and seeking it makes one better able to opine with knowledge based suppositions. i do recall a young lady from st. louis, who i believe will attend university at so. illinois. she got hurt in the next to last game of this past jr. nat. i am sure there were other ladies unknown to the pundits of dmv that were successful in getting schollies to university. without having exact #'s of the total seniors from last season, would suggest that it is possible that that is where the increase came from. only a suggestion, i am sure james or jerry would gladly detail to you the entire list if asked.

Eastcoastbball

04-08-2008, 12:43 PM

After reading Rodder's previous post, he's absolutely correct.. no need to waste time on posting lists/etc... what can all the guru's do collectively to move the game forward for the youngsters up & coming.. The DMV, which includes B'More has enough talent base to get kids moving on, my focus is back on track.. thanks Big Dawg.... :)

da silent 1

04-08-2008, 12:59 PM

what is being done is being done by individuals both old and new to the process. often times this reporting to and proferring to colleges and scounting services is done without anyone receiving any accolades except knowing that they helped some young lady(s) from the dmv get some juice. this has to be done in a manner that pushes all to the front without having to be negative about another lady in the dmv. discussions on hgs forum that engage in putting one down to elevate another is not in the best interest of anyone, especially the young ladies. ten years ago the number of ladies in this area getting d-1 paper has been surpassed 20 fold. the object is to maintain and increase our ratio against other regions and areas. we are hot now being " discovered", but hot don't stay hot forever. the rest of the country is looking at the skill set, athleticism, aggressive style we have and tailoring their approach and game to fit that mold in order to get what we got. they are getting there slowly but surely, trust that. we must be very careful when we opine on the topic of who got game and who doesn't as others across the nation marvel at the level of discussion, interest, participation of the dmv. the tenor and content of our exchanges is being observed and read by coaches, players and the customer base. what we have courtesy of hgs is a blessing, but if abused for selfish reasons can become a bane of our young ladies as well as our region. this by no means says soft soap, or skirt, it just means be careful how you opine what you opine and be careful who and how you denigrate the pundits of the dmv. what we all are doing in order to advance the prospects of as many dmv ladies getting paper is far and above the rest of the country and i am sure has an impact on getting juice ot our ladies. i would suggest only be careful and mindful of how you say what you say such that it turns into something more than a group having the "freedom" to express their opinion, as others are reading and interpreting the written word!!!!

intelligenthoodlum

04-08-2008, 02:01 PM

THE IH HAS BEEN RUNNING A SCAM ON YOU SPORTS FANS! The 95 Team Unique girls over 10 years he was referring to is really only 85!
Eastcoastbball forced the IH to go back and go over the numbers again, AND THERE WERE ONLY 85 GIRLS!
The IH apologizes to the message board community for LYING to you all, and only hopes that NOFEAR5658, DALIST, and the rest of you all can please forgive the IH. MY BAD.

The IH assures you all that all of the other numbers are legit...

Tiora Hackley/Norfolk State, Danielle Hellickson/Illinois State, Jocelyn Bailey/Delaware, and Chasity Clayton/Florida State make 89 girls in 11 years.

To the Relax Room; party favors, on the IH...

arbitraryj

04-08-2008, 02:14 PM

Wow, you're like the UNCF of girls basketball.

Yeah, on a normal mistake I'd probably be all over it but in this case, hold those apologies until another program can post similar numbers.

any takers??????

heh-loooooo
(take us home Lou)

DALIST

04-08-2008, 03:42 PM

arbitraryj

04-08-2008, 05:10 PM

WHAATTTTTTTT? & who the heck is Lou????

dude.

seriously?!

Okay, maybe you don't know about the UNCF telethon or Lou -who was the face of UNCF for decades. Wow.

Well in the spirit of the UNCF motto (http://www.uncf.org/)

May I introduce you to one of the :cool: smoothest brothas :cool: who ever walked the face of this earth.

Rest in Peace Lou (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Sqts6YrPs)

teammom4

04-08-2008, 06:13 PM

This thread has taken a helluva turn!

...Someone who loves u..like Iiii Dooo!! :D

coachdarkansasraptors

04-08-2008, 06:57 PM

I agree this has gone from strange to stranger.

quedash

04-08-2008, 11:20 PM

You're a rising-senior, and you're a 5'3" to 5'9" guard, from Baltimore, or D.C., or Richmond, or Tidewater, or Roanoke. You were out on the circuit last club season, and did a little something. So, you've been getting correspondences from bottom-half Big East/ACC schools, and most of the Atlantic-10/Colonial schools.
You just had a great school season, winning a championship of some kind, and you got All-Met, and All-State, and some type of Gatorade/McDonald's State accolade, and all of the adults in your circle think you're The Next One.
In the meantime, the IH announces that you're on the RBR All-Region Second-, Third-, Fourth-, or Fifth-Team, and the adults in your circle are furious with the IH that you're not on the First-Team. Instead of them asking and understanding WHY the RBR thinks the way it does, they KIRK OUT and blame Team Unique bias.
So the IH is an idiot, the RBR is a scam, and Team Unique girls are whack. And you're at Boo Williams Invitational, or at Deep South Classic--2,000 girls at each event for the weekend, totalling 4,000--AND 3,000 OF THEM ARE JUST LIKE YOU, A DAMN GUARD!
And the IH may be an idiot, a biased scam artist, and a hype-hack; but the IH does know that 300 of those 3,000 are just better than you are, by any measure.

IH, after reading these couple of paragraphs, I, once again, am thankful for the little tid-bits of information that you dole out on a continual basis. I have a question and a couple of comments. I understand that you are not in the best mood at the moment due to the nature of this particular thread, so if you prefer you can answer my question on the batphone, if you are up to answering them at all. First, I'm sure you know I don't live in the DMV area, so I don't have a player that will benefit in this area from your response. Are you saying that if someone were to ask, how their player can improve their ranking thru the RBR you would tell them(I'm assuming thru the batphone)? Next summer my daughter will be one of those guards trying to convince the experts that she be in the "300" in 2012; because of your insight I'll be having a conversation about what she can expect. It seems if you want to have the "300 political pedigree', it is in your best interest to get on the circuit early in your high school career, and give an all out accounting of yourself in every game you play.

intelligenthoodlum

04-28-2008, 07:07 AM

1. An honest assestment of your athleticism, IQ, and skills--by someone who knows what they're looking at. In other words, by someone who evaluates players for a living; or, by someone who has helped send numerous players over the years to major-D-1 programs.

2. There are certain things required of a point guard or of a shooting guard--at EVERY LEVEL OF BASKETBALL--that are non-negotiable and universal, on both sides of the ball, and in the mentals. How close are you to doing them, if you are trying to do any of them at all, at this point in your career?

3. Who are thought of as the top-five at your position in the NBA? Who are thought of as the top-five in the NBA who your playing style is like? Whomever they are, WATCH THEM RELIGIOUSLY. Get tape on them. GO SEE THEM LIVE, EVERY CHANCE YOU CAN.

4. What ten girls at your position do McDonald's, Parade, the WBCA, Gatorade, EA Sports, and all them other peoples say are the best in the country? What ten girls at your position does The Streetz say are the best in the country? Cross-reference the two, and figure out--with the help of a knowledgeable coach/trainer--how you can fit in.

5. Play as much pick-up ball as you can handle against boys your size and your age. And playing with and against girls/women, IT'S CRITICAL THAT YOU PLAY YOUR COLLEGE POSITION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

6. No matter what, ALWAYS REBOUND THE BASKETBALL.

7. As quickly as possible, and as thoroughly as possible, learn how to defend the PG/SG/SF positions.

8. Everytime you see one of those 300, WHAT HAPPENS?

To be continued, to be certain...