Chsaa A And Aa Finals

[Hoopsking]

Saturday March 15th
Location: Hofstra University

3pm: The A title game: Holy Trinity vs. Christ the King

5pm: The AA title game: St. John the Baptist vs. Archbishop Molloy

Winners go to Glenn Falls on the weekend of the 29th. Losers go home.

[ClayKallam]

I thought Christ the King lost ... what's going on here?

[BrooklynSaints]

I thought Christ the King lost ... what's going on here?

In the strange world of NY basketball Christ the King lost and is still alive. While St. Mikes lost and will play no more this year. You can now call them Exodus.

How this works:

The NY downstate region is divided into 3 divisions.

Division 1 - Bronx/Manhattan/Staten Island

Division 2 - Brooklyn/Queens

Division 3 - Long Island

There is a playoff in each division to determine seeding

St. Mikes beat St. John Villa to win in Division 1 -
Molloy beat Christ the King to win Division 2
St. John the Baptist beat Trinity to win Division 3

The winners of the 3 divisions now must play to decide who will be the AA representative for the State Championship. The losers at this point go home. Since there are three teams one team gets a bye.

St. John the Baptist beat St. Mikes.
St. John the Baptist now must play Molloy the winner goes to the State AA Federation Championship. The loser goes home.

Back to our seeding.

In addition to AA Federation Champions. There are A, B & C

After seeding the seeded teams compete to see who will go to the State Championship.

In this case Christ the King is trying to make it to the State Championship at the A level.

Hopefully this makes sense. Most don't understand it.

[NYTraveller]

It gets even more complicated when you add the public schools and the PSAL. The NYSPHSAA governs all public schools except for NYC which is under the PSAL. Both the PSAL and the PHSAA classify their teams befor ethe season AA, A, B, C or D based on school population. Hence, Bergtraum and Manhattan Center are AA (PSAL finalists) as are Rush-Henrietta, Syracuse-Corcoran, North Babylon and Kingston (the Final Four for the NYSPHSAA).

In the CHSAA, which governs the Catholic schools, classification is determined by the playoff results within their own diocese: St Mikes beat St John Villa in the NY Archdiocese therefore St Mikes is AA and Villa is A; Molloy beat Christ the King in the Diocese of Brooklyn so Molloy is AA and King is A; St John the Baptist beat Holy Trinity in the Diocese of Rockville Center (Long Island) - SJB is AA and Trinity is A. For the B, C, and D classifications, the Diocese of Buffalo has representatives so there's a Final Four type playoff to determine the State CHSAA Classification Champion; for the top two Classes, there's only three divisions so they rotate a bye by area each year. Brooklyn-Queens has it this year.

St Mikes lost to SJB - they're out. SJB plays Molloy for the CHSAA state title class AA.
Villa lost to Trinity; Trinity plays CTK for the Class A title.

Next week there will be another three way playoff for the overall State Federation title. The Class AA reps will be: PSAL - winner of Bergtraum-Manhattan Center; CHSAA - winner of Molloy-SJB; PHSAA - Rush, Corcoran, Kingston or North Bab. I'm not sure which governing body has the bye into the finals this year.

[Hoopsking]

Boys Basketball icon Tom Konchalski said it best.

New York City basketball playoffs is the most complex system in the Country.

[ClayKallam]

So the A Division is the loser's bracket, but that winner doesn't go to the Federation playoffs.

[Hoopsking]

Clay, the A winner goes to the Federation and plays for the A Federation state title.

Either Ck or Trinity will play the winner from Upstate for the Class A Federation title. Loser goes home.

Winner of Class AA between Molloy and SJB represents the CHSAA in Glen Falls and will get a bye into the finals on March 30th between the winner of Saturdays game between the PSAL winner (Bergtraum is my pick) and the representative from Upstate (Rush Henrietta my pick).

Again, it's a very complex system. Check out this website Clay. It may help explain somewhat.

http://www.nysbasketball.net/NYSFSSAA/schedules-girls.htm

[ClayKallam]

OK, it's beginning to come clear. I've just never paid any attention to the A bracket before.

But that is unique: You lose at one level, and you drop down to another, and still move on. In a lot of states, you can lose certain games and still keep playing, but not in a different division.

[Hoopsking]

Christ the King defeated Holy Trinity in the A title game and will represent the CHSAA in Glen Falls for the A Federation title game

St. John the Baptist defeated Archbishop Molloy in the AA title game and will represent the CHSAA in Glen Falls for the AA Federation title.