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smokeyhip
05-25-2007, 11:29 AM
Alright here we go again folks. Who do you feel are your top five wing players in the area?
They have to be able to shoot the open shot, handle the rock, rebound effectively, and most important create their own shot. Be bold!:D

Balling
05-25-2007, 12:52 PM
Brittany Crowell & Shanel Harrison....... Let the discussion begin

fhire
05-25-2007, 01:59 PM
Brittany Crowell & Shanel Harrison....... Let the discussion begin

I like ur 2 but I'll raise you Chasity Clayton and Brooke Wilson.
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intelligenthoodlum
05-25-2007, 02:31 PM
The MD/DC/VA region's top-ten wings, as per the RBR, regardless of class (in alphabetical order, of course):
1. Jocelyn Bailey, 6'0", 2008, The Bullis School/Potomac, Md.;
2. Alyssa Bennett, 6'1", 2009, Hampton/Hampton, Va.;
3. Josette Campbell, 6'0", 2008, Notre Dame Academy/Middleburg, Va.;
4. Chasity Clayton, 6'1", 2008, Thomas Edison/Alexandria, Va.;
5. Brittany Crowell, 5'10", 2008, Gwynn Park/Brandywine, Md.;
6. JoNiquia Guilford, 5'10", 2008, Woodrow Wilson/Portsmouth, Va.;
7. Shanel Harrison, 5'11", 2008, Good Counsel/Olney, Md.;
8. Sonia Johnson, 5'10", 2008, Heritage/Newport News, Va.;
9. Tierra Ruffin-Pratt, 5'11", 2009, T.C. Williams/Alexandria, Va.;
10. Brooke Wilson, 6'1", 2008, Eleanor Roosevelt/Greenbelt, Md.

WOLFSCOUT
05-25-2007, 07:00 PM
DC cobras/ HDW's Patrice Johnson,This girl gets no love!. My top for the area is Chasity Clayton.

ballfan
05-26-2007, 11:48 AM
How about Tiana Myers from McNamara. She can handle it, shoot it, and take to the rim. She also plays D!

FFCoach
05-28-2007, 08:45 AM
I love the talent that both Clayton and TR Pratt have I just wish they would play hard 100% of the time.

first2no
05-28-2007, 10:25 AM
by not playing hard all the time. Thats actually what seperates those two from many others is the fact that they play hard all the time. That is one of the main things that college coaches love about those two kids. If you read the bio's and stories on these two kids from the Hoopgurlz archives you will see that one of their trademarks is the tenacity they bring the whole game. I have watched both of those kids play hundreds of times and I have never not seen then play hard. You might be the only person in the country to come up with that evaluation of either one of those players.

spwri
05-28-2007, 11:15 AM
Hey folkes heres another player that know one ever talks about Ashleigh Fossett out of
Frederick Md handle the ball very well can take you off the dribble shoot with either hand
and a outstanding three point shoot also on her way to Riverdale Baptise still need to work
a little harder on defense but on her way to be an outstanding prospect in 09 class

FFCoach
05-28-2007, 11:50 AM
Not sure what you are watching then. I actually coached CC and saw it far too often. I've spoken to others who have coached them and numerous others who have watched them play and hear the same thing. No question about their talent but they don't bring it 100% of the time.

first2no
05-28-2007, 12:46 PM
Who have you coached that brings it so Clayton and Pratt can make sure to see them so they will have a model to follow.

If you coached CC and she didn't play hard what did you do as a coach to help her see the importance of playing hard all the time?

Please provide us with some examples of them not playing hard that you witnessed?

Can wait to see the rest of your post, you start posting today and your first post is that those two kids don't play hard? Interesting!

first2no
05-28-2007, 12:54 PM
Not sure what you are watching then. I actually coached CC and saw it far too often. I've spoken to others who have coached them and numerous others who have watched them play and hear the same thing. No question about their talent but they don't bring it 100% of the time.


Here is an article for you to read. The article has quotes from the only two people who have coached TRP for the last four years. Funny how the article states how she never takes possesions off and is always the most aggressive player on the court. I guess Hoopgurls and her two coaches would disagree with you. I would venture to say that the Edison Coach and Team Unique Coaches would disagree with your evaluation of CC also but everyone is entitled to their opinion. Again, I look forward to joining the board!

http://www.hoopgurlz.com/story/master-all

FFCoach
05-28-2007, 01:00 PM
Not sure why it's relevant when I joined the post or interesting. I've followed the post for several years I like Chasity. There were times however during a game when she would just quit. She's improved in that regard but I still see it surface on occasion. I've coached against TRP and have watched her since she was 10 and she can be lazy at times. I'm not criticizing them just making an objective observation.

Next time you watch one of their games, focus on them instead of the whole game. Compare their effort to Jasmine Thomas' and you will see what I mean.

FFCoach
05-28-2007, 01:08 PM
I've read the article - just don't agree with it. What would you expect their coach would say? I know the Edison coach and am pretty sure she would like more consistent effort. I'm not saying either is lazy. I would take either one in a heart beat. I just disagree with the comments I've read that they always bring it. If they did, they would be even better.

first2no
05-28-2007, 04:06 PM
I've read the article - just don't agree with it. What would you expect their coach would say? I know the Edison coach and am pretty sure she would like more consistent effort. I'm not saying either is lazy. I would take either one in a heart beat. I just disagree with the comments I've read that they always bring it. If they did, they would be even better.

Again where are your facts or examples? I gave you an article that was written by Chris Hansen who does this for a living. He evaluates girls basketball players all the time and I'm sure that he has seen both players plenty of times. When, where, and what game have you seen CC just quit??? Again, did she just stand still and not move anymore? Pratt is getting a lot better with her skill over the past few years but the major part of her game is how she gets after it on both ends! Thats a big part of why she is considered the top 09 in the country. You don't get that from taking plays and games off! Our area has girls that get after it and thats what really seperates our area from other parts of the country. Jasmine Thomas, Atira Franklin, TRP, Doreena Campbell, Adria Crawford, CC, All the McNamara Girls, All the ER girls and several others will take your head off on the court and simply not allow you to outwork them. I have seen all of the above play plenty of times and they get after it all the time (IMO).

I expect that their coaches would say what they felt and I expect and no that haters would say something else.

You said you would take them in a "heartbeat" as a coach I find that obserd because I would never want a player on my team who quit or didn't play hard, but yet you would take both of them????

WOLFSCOUT
05-28-2007, 06:50 PM
I would think the first thing you notice about Chas is her hustle, the girl got that smokin joe hustle.

teammom4
05-28-2007, 07:21 PM
These kids have great hustle. Haven't seen TRP since last summer (I'm REALLY looking forward to this weekend) but I'm sure she hasn't toned it down any...Maybe the "Coach" is talking about last summer when Chas was playing with O'Connell(?), she definitely wasn't the super stud we know today (at least not when I saw her) but that's pointless to mention because if she is now all over National websites she MUST have improved!

FFCoach
05-28-2007, 07:55 PM
I'm giving my opinion - from coaching CC and watching numerous Edison games this past year. I don't feel the need to give you specific examples any more than you given me. I respect Chris' opinion but I don’t think he coached her and I doubt he's seen her play more than I.

Adria Crawford is a good example of my point. I have coached against her teams many times and have seen her play since she was 9. She goes all out all the time. She never takes a play off. Though more talented, Chasity doesn’t play with the same intensity and effort of Adria. Focus on the two of them the next time you watch Edison play. If you are honest you will agree.

Virtually any coach would take them because of their TALENT - get real. That happens all the time in sports. You overlook certain things with a player that talented. Pratt is also extremely talented but will take plays off. To imply that I'm a hater simply because I don't think either plays consistently hard all the time is ridiculous. Both have the potential to be terrific players. They won’t reach their full potential however unless they give max effort the entire game.

first2no
05-28-2007, 08:50 PM
The majority of the girls in our area play very hard with much heart. In your opinion two of the kids that you mention don't (One just quits during games and the other takes plays off) By the way which plays do they take off (1st down, or 2nd down) You have watched Crawford from the time she was 9 and you have never seen her take a play off?? You have watched TRP since she was 10 and she takes lots of plays off?? You have coached CC and she just quits in games??? The most important thing in basketball is to compete and play hard but you are willing to forsake that with these two and put them on your team? Amazing?

Teammom,
You are correct some posters have switched names on us!!

Sportsfans,

The youth league Coach from Fairfax has given me a post idea... Is it possible to play the entire game and give maximum effort every single second on the court??

Ben Wallace, Tamika Catchings, Bruce Bowing and CC (Smile FFC) are known for there hustling, has anyone ever seen them take a play off???

My man Intell once posted that TRP needed to learn how to pace herself that he thought she exerted too much energy and would be more effective by toning it down. I thought that was a ridiculous idea but know that we are here do elite athletes need to divy out the energy level to be more effective through out the game?

intelligenthoodlum
05-28-2007, 11:36 PM
One of the curses of talent is that if a talent takes one minute off of a 32-minute game, the critics maintain that the talent doesn't play hard 100% of the time.
The IH feels that any problems these two girls have are rooted in the fact that for two girls to be so talented, they are still learning how to play more EFFICIENTLY.
To the IH, when players have real talent and potential, it's more important to play EFFICIENT, than it is to play HARD...

FFCoach
05-29-2007, 07:00 AM
First - if you are going to generalize my statements, at least do it accurately and don't exaggerate what I said. CC and TRP have been described as always bringing it. Though I think they are both terrific players, from watching them, I don't think they always do. If you think they play with the same intensity as Crawford, fine.

GameLuvr
05-29-2007, 08:28 AM
I've seen TP play from and early age until the present and she definately gives 100% all the time. The few times that I have seen CC, I can say they same thing about her. I have not seen either one of these players come with less than their A Game.

first2no
05-29-2007, 09:37 AM
First - if you are going to generalize my statements, at least do it accurately and don't exaggerate what I said. CC and TRP have been described as always bringing it. Though I think they are both terrific players, from watching them, I don't think they always do. If you think they play with the same intensity as Crawford, fine.

Everything I said was quoted from you. The board is still waiting for examples. You said CC flat out would quit during games?? Where are all these people at that says CC doesn't play hard?? We Love Crawford on this board, we don't talk negative about our own!
especially ridiculous statements like a kid just quit playing!!

FFCoach
05-29-2007, 10:58 AM
Show me where I said TRP takes lots of plays off. Show me when I said, “I am willing to forsake that with these two (compete and play hard) and put them on my team” (Your quote). You clearly define quote in loose terms. What I actually said is that one often overlooks certain things with talented players in reference to them not always playing hard. Not all top players give equal effort - Even those from the DC metropolitan area. I guess that’s being negative about our own again.

It’s pointless to continue this. We disagree. Further argument including names and places are not going to convince you any more than your arguments will convince me.

rodder07
05-29-2007, 11:30 AM
Elashier Hall and Olivia Applewhite will be two of the best wing players in the country before the end of the summer. They have the tanacity, desire and work ethic. If they continue to work sky's the limit.

smokeyhip
05-30-2007, 06:50 PM
Jacline Nucci 5'9" guard/forward South River High School averaged about 19ppg

I think she was Anne Arundel Counties player of the year this past season.
This girl can play. She has mastered the use of the glass better than any girl I have seen. ;)

coachcampbell
05-31-2007, 01:56 PM
Hey, this kid is an all around complete player. She is from Frederick, MD and does not get the credit she deserves. The scouts better be watching and not sleep on her. Excellent fit for Riverdale Baptist:):)

fhire
05-31-2007, 06:55 PM
Hey folkes heres another player that know one ever talks about Ashleigh Fossett out of
Frederick Md handle the ball very well can take you off the dribble shoot with either hand
and a outstanding three point shoot also on her way to Riverdale Baptise still need to work
a little harder on defense but on her way to be an outstanding prospect in 09 class

How tall is she and what class 08 09 10 ????
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spwri
05-31-2007, 08:46 PM
She's a 09 about 5'8 where #12 with the Majic 91

fhire
06-01-2007, 11:52 AM
Show me where I said TRP takes lots of plays off. Show me when I said, ?I am willing to forsake that with these two (compete and play hard) and put them on my team? (Your quote). You clearly define quote in loose terms. What I actually said is that one often overlooks certain things with talented players in reference to them not always playing hard. Not all top players give equal effort - Even those from the DC metropolitan area. I guess that?s being negative about our own again.

It?s pointless to continue this. We disagree. Further argument including names and places are not going to convince you any more than your arguments will convince me.

These two Clayton and Pratt are wonderful players and their signature is the tenacity with which they play!
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fhire
06-01-2007, 12:00 PM
The IH made great point we often speak of these players as if they are finished products. These two are still in the growing stage of basketball give a chance and enjoy watching the growth.
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